Hospital nurse found dead after prank call on Catherine

[CES020]

So if someone bullies a kid and the kid kills himself, it's the kids fault? The court would disagree with you. People are going to jail for that stuff now.

With all due respect, when did it become okay to just treat everyone else like crap at your expense? What happened to respecting other human beings. You talk about political correctness? When did it become okay to just treat others like crap? If you want to talk about Christmas, then live by the example and treat others with respect and kindness.

 

[fmg]

Quite possibly the nurse who took the call would have
Had to go through a disciplinary action to
Explain herself.
This may have left her feeling a lot of embarrassment
And pressure from not only her peers and superiors but the public eye as well.
The Two Dj's in my opinion contributed to this and no doubt
They will find another Barbie to throw the shrimp on.

 

[tsgstl]

You are comparing apples to oranges. We are talking about 2 people that called a hospital pretending to be someone else to get info on a patient. I heard no bullying and neither treated anyone like crap. In fact to use you own words they WERE respectful and kind.

Did you listen to the call? Failing to do your job and screen calls is a totally different situation than being bullied into killing yourself. Surely you have to see this?

Btw commiting suicide is the ultimate sign of weakness. Unless you are facing certain death and your choice is "more comfortable" than the alternative IMO is the only acceptable situation. Not to mention it's extremely selfish.

Edit: yes it is the kids fault or probably in a lot of situations not only the bullies parents fault but the victims parents fault. I could care less what the court says, the bully should ONLY be punished for HIS actions, not the bad decision the victim does.

 

[Haakon]

Btw commiting suicide is the ultimate sign of weakness. Unless you are facing certain death and your choice is "more comfortable" than the alternative IMO is the only acceptable situation. Not to mention it's extremely selfish.

Yeah, it's easy to throw around statements like this when you are not involved in any way.

But what if this happened to your child or partner? That they saw themselves in some kind of situation that they could not see they way out of?

Would you still say F them for being weak and selfish as you see it?

 

[tsgstl]

I never said f anyone, I said I feel sorry for her and her family. Blaming others fixes nothing. And you have no idea of my personal connections to this subject so pleases stop assuming.

 

[CES020]

Btw commiting suicide is the ultimate sign of weakness. Unless you are facing certain death and your choice is "more comfortable" than the alternative IMO is the only acceptable situation. Not to mention it's extremely selfish.

That's probably one of the most ignorant statements I've ever read on this forum. Do some research and come back when you're done. I expect you'll take back those words once you do.

I wouldn't call Vietnam Veterans that commit suicide weak or selfish. I wouldn't call people that have been in wars and have PTSD issues now weak people. I wouldn't call people with bipolar disorder weak or selfish.

You're trying to impose rational logic on people that aren't able to think rationally because the way their brain works.

 

[tsgstl]

weak·ness

/ˈwēknis/
Noun

• The state or condition of lacking strength.

That is exactly what I am saying. You are assuming I don't have sympathy for someone in those conditions which is false. Just because I am more comfortable with the definitions of words does not make me incorrect in my opinion.

 

[Gino]

So, by most of your conclusions here.... the majority think if I get hungry and go to the restaurant for a meal.... if I get sick, it's my fault. If I get sick it's my fault for going there. It's my fault for being hungry. It's my fault for ordering the wrong menu item. It's my fault for going there during that shift. It's my fault cause you just don't want to take responsibility for being a lousy cook and I didn't know it going in.

So, this person took the call seriously and was made out to be a joke herself and it's her fault.... not the person responsible for creating this premeditated prank..... and the word prank is not the right word. It should be tormentors creating a putrid entertainment stunt.

Two people have indeed caused the death of another human being, perhaps indirectly, but it still counts. Color the picture anyway you want, but they are responsible. They never took into consideration who or what condition was on the other end of the phone call..... did they ??

This nurse will never come back and I saw written.... "it won't bring back a life, and a family has lost its wife, its mother, its daughter. And two young radio hosts may well look at their hands in a very different way for the rest of their lives."


No one wins in this one at the call of a prank radio station duo.

 

[tsgstl]

Some of you need to learn the difference between directly and indirectly.

 

[Gino]

tsg....

Just about everyone of your posts are as follows....... in my opinion, I believe, was/is probably, if, I feel sorry, but, and so on. You don't commit to nothin'.... you're all over the place.

There are only a few facts here and you along with the others keep coming up with all your stoopid story lines of the imagination.

She answered a phone call made by the two DJ's who didn't research their so-called prank call victim which took the nurse over the edge and she is presently dead. No more. Cease to breath. Gone.

All of your smoke and mirrors has nothing to do with the bottom line. She's dead and it's vastly their fault. Sure, she had some input here, but more than likely like the rest of you are doing, it will be covered up and made out to be the nurses fault, so everyone can feel good about their stoopid a$$ pranks.

Could this be a repeat of sorts of Princess Diana ??


People of the entertainment field are overstepping their boundaries and this just proves it once again. If you or anyone else thinks this kinda stuff is funny, so be it, but don't sit there and deny it goes wrong quite often.

 

[CES020]

weak·ness

/ˈwēknis/
Noun

• The state or condition of lacking strength.

That is exactly what I am saying. You are assuming I don't have sympathy for someone in those conditions which is false. Just because I am more comfortable with the definitions of words does not make me incorrect in my opinion.

Step inside Walter Reed Medical Hospital and tell me those with PTSD have a weakness and lack strength. You honestly have ZERO idea about mental health issues. Repeat ZERO.

 

[John L]

The DJ's either didnt consider, or didnt care, that someone might be repremanded or even lose their job if their call actually went through. It kinda looks like this nurse (with somewhat naive phone receptionist/screening skills) either needed her job or took it to heart rather deeply for some other reason. If those wacky DJ's kept calling eventually they would find another like situation or maybe even a pharmacy that actually had the REAL Prince Albert in a can. Pranking is a risky endeavor.

In a weaker argument... The hospital may have put this girl in a position she just wasn't cut out for too. Or maybe they just didnt feel the need for a full psyche evaluation for a receptionist position.

Sorry but, considering what we know, the DJ's must hang.

 

[tsgstl]

Gino,
All over the place? Really, I think I have been pretty consistant. Smoke and mirrors? Your the one that came up with the food poisoning thing.

CES,
Reviewing this thread I need to appologize for my comments on suicide. Not that I disagree with anything I said but I wouldn't go saying it at a wake of someone who died this way and I totally respect your feelings on this. I should of been more sensitive. A lot of us have experienced things like this in our own lives and I understand how emotional some feel. It's ironic that the last thread I ruffled feathers like this in was how strongly I feel that those who serve deserve so much for their sacrifices but whatever.

 

[CES020]

CES,
Reviewing this thread I need to appologize for my comments on suicide. Not that I disagree with anything I said but I wouldn't go saying it at a wake of someone who died this way and I totally respect your feelings on this. I should of been more sensitive. A lot of us have experienced things like this in our own lives and I understand how emotional some feel. It's ironic that the last thread I ruffled feathers like this in was how strongly I feel that those who serve deserve so much for their sacrifices but whatever.

It's not about my "feelings" on this, it's about the facts. People that commit suicide aren't always weak, fragile people that walk around getting their feeling hurt all day long. Very tough warriors and just regular Joe's do it all the time. Some may be weak and not able to handle things, but there is a very large number of them that aren't weak.

Spend some time talking to someone that's being treated for bipolar disorder some time. If you want your eyes opened to it, that's a good place to start. I felt very much like you do when my relative committed suicide. I thought he was so selfish and it was so stupid and to think about all the pain on his teenage kids he had caused by it was sickening to me.

Then I had a very long discussion with someone that was bipolar. It changed my outlook on it 180 degrees. According to this person, and I assume it's different for others, but this person said that when it happens, you have no control over it and things that would normally make perfect sense seem to make no sense. Black becomes white, and white becomes black. This person had been close to suicide many times and they told me during their episode, they actually believe that suicide is going to make it all better, not just for them for everyone around them. Their logic gets completely reversed and that's why it's hard for people without it to understand what's happening.

Like I said, it was an eye opening experience for me. By no means is it done by a weakness, it's done because their brain is sending them signals that tell them that it's the exact right thing to do, not because they are trying to escape from any pain or discomfort.

 

[Gino]

Gino,
All over the place? Really, I think I have been pretty consistant. Smoke and mirrors? Your the one that came up with the food poisoning thing.

CES,
Reviewing this thread I need to appologize for my comments on suicide. Not that I disagree with anything I said but I wouldn't go saying it at a wake of someone who died this way and I totally respect your feelings on this. I should of been more sensitive. A lot of us have experienced things like this in our own lives and I understand how emotional some feel. It's ironic that the last thread I ruffled feathers like this in was how strongly I feel that those who serve deserve so much for their sacrifices but whatever.

YES, all over the place. Even your own statement say after reviewing your own statements in this thread.

It's one thing to say and stand behind your own convictions, but to back-pedal about things is just...... little minded.

 

[tsgstl]

ease up on the red bull kimosabe it's Saturday night.

I really have no clue what you're talking about. I felt like someone got offended by my view on something. Perhaps I was too blunt, I apologized. I never changed my opinion. I'm done with this thread so feel free to personally attack me some more.

 

[ProWraps]

good god. i worked in radio for years.

this is par for the course.

why on gods green earf should the djs feel even an ounce of sadness for an unstable weak individual?

no body knew who she was untill she offed herself. she is a martyr. for what cause we will never know.

good riddance. ill see you in the after life and laugh at how weak you are.

thinning the herd. the sooner the better.

im with bob and his cow horse on this one.

 

[bob]

...slopheart bilge mercifully deleted...

...By no means is it done by a weakness, it's done because their brain is sending them signals that tell them that it's the exact right thing to do, not because they are trying to escape from any pain or discomfort.

Twaddle. The raison d'etre of any living organism is to keep on doing so and to reproduce. That, sport, is a pretty good informal definition of life.

I've known a number of people who managed to dispatch themselves, my mother for one, and I can state with some certainty that whatever the reason, their mental tackle was not telling them it was proper behavior. In every case with which I'm personally familiar it was the ultimate in "I'll show you..." and/or "Can you top this?"

In every case the person offing themselves was solely responsible for themselves and their actions. Traditional wisdom would indicate that Incitement to riot is not justification to riot. Just replace the the word 'riot' with 'suicide'. Regardless of how some one was goaded, bullied, spoken to harshly or whatever, the responsibility for that person's actions in response to ANY stimulus is theirs and theirs alone. Moreover regardless of what some judge and/or jury should find.

Every human being is responsible for its own condition. To abandon that principle invites chaos. If someone is held responsible for the actions of another, where does the responsibility end? Can we hold the provacateur's mother responsible for birthing it? If not why not? If so then why not the grand parents as well?

 

[ProWraps]

words...i got through exactly none of them other than twaddle.


what were we talking about again..? my rogets is hurting. i hate to admit i have a man crush on the big B.O.B.

and his cow horse.

 

[S'N'S]

tsg....

She answered a phone call made by the two DJ's who didn't research their so-called prank call victim which took the nurse over the edge and she is presently dead.

She only answered the phone and patched it through to the woman the DJ's spoke with, she had issues before this phone prank and apparently had nothing to do with the call...well that's what they said on the news here tonight. It's all been blown out of proportion because it coincided with the phone call.