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How do you trace a

Discussion in 'Flexi' started by stuart@accupress.com, Oct 3, 2006.

  1. stuart@accupress.com

    stuart@accupress.com Member

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    tiff in flexi? I have been pulling my hair out all afternoon. Is it possible to trace a tiff in flexi?

    Thanks again in advance.
     
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  2. Whit

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    Find the file,,, right click,, edit,,, save as jpg/bitmap !!!
    Work on it from there instead of using a tiff !!!
    I've got streamline,,, it can work from tiff but I
    usually go from jpg formats !!!
     
  3. Geary

    Geary Very Active Member

    This is quite strange. I used to have Flexi at shop I worked at 5 years ago and I now have LXi (made by Flexi) and I have no problem at all tracing a .tiff .....hmmmmm?

    Could it be a "PC" thing.....I'm a Mac user. Don't know...................anyone else? Anywhere?

    ~Gear
     
  4. Derf

    Derf Very Active Member

    Do you have a legal copy of the software? Some bootleg copies don't auto trace!



    If you have a real copy then contact tech support and have them walk you through it.
     
  5. GAC05

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    Are you having trouble finding the autotrace tool, or trouble using the options under the tool?
    In Flexi Pro the "Vectorize" option is under the "Bitmap" drop down menu tab at the top of the workspace.
    The correct option to use depends on the type of bitmap you are trying to trace.
    got a pic of what you are trying to do?

    wayne k
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  6. Fred Weiss

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    Any version of Flexi which has a trace tool can trace a TIFF. The way it goes about it is ... well, flexible, because it depends on the color mode you have it saved in.

    Flexi has bitmap (1 bit) tracing, grayscale and color. In addition, and as mentioned by GAC05, Flexi also includes a special vectorization routine they call Bezier and two of the routines that go back to the CasMate and Inspire tracing routines. Those three are all located in the bitmap menu under under Vectorize. So in all, Flexi actually has six different autotracing routines built into it.

    If the image is in color, you might want to check to see if the color mode is CMYK or RGB. Whichever it is, try switching to the other, resave and then see if the autotrace likes it any better.
     
  7. mark in tx

    mark in tx Very Active Member

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    You can also manually trace in flexi with your pen tool.
     
  8. SignGuy101

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    i don't think he is talking about auto tracing it, i think he meant opening it or importing it as a tiff to flexi and working on it. i agree with Whit i do the same thing, edit>>save as>>jpg then open it in flexi.

    Good luck
     
  9. bob

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    This is a non-question. Perhaps you meant "Can I import a tif into Flexi and then trace the resultant bitmap?" The answer is yes.

    A bitmap is a bitmap and has absolutely nothing to do with what particular encoding method might have been used to store that bitmap in a file. Pixels is pixels and color depth is color depth. A bitmap in memory carries no necessary information as to what file type could have been used to store it.

    One traces a bitmap not a tif, jpg, gif, pdx, bmp, or whatever file. Once a bitmap is reconsituted from a file that holds it is independent of that file.
     
  10. WVB

    WVB Very Active Member

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    Bob he asked How do you trace a tiff in flexi. Whats the prob?
     
  11. bob

    bob Major Contributor

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    Not a problem, merely a bit of conceptual confusion. One traces bitmaps, not files. A tif is a file format for storing a bitmap, not a bitmap.

    So how do you trace the contents of a tif file in Flexi? Import the contents of the tif file into Flexi and trace the bitmap. The same way that one would trace any other bitmap. How hard is that?
     
  12. Geary

    Geary Very Active Member

    Will,
    I think what Bob was addressing is the course of thinking by some, including myself, that a tiff was any different than a jpg or any other bitmap file. His point is to say that it doesn't matter what "flavor" of bitmap it is.....if you have a Trace option in the software then it will work .....no matter what. And in my assessment, after reading about how digital information is processed, is that he's correct in that any bitmap file is traceable if you have the proper plugin on board.

    ~Gear


    ps....*EDIT* well......we posted about the same time I see. :wink:
     
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  13. myronb

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    I was always under the impression that Bitmap was also a "type" of file-- i.e. .bmp I thought that "raster" was the correct generic term.

    Myron
     
  14. bob

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    Not quit. 'Raster' is the mechanism/process whereby a bitmap, and everything else on virtually all digital monitors in use today, is displayed. All raster really means is a beam traveling back and forth exciting phosphors along its path. As opposed to, say, the display of an oscilliscope where the data is applied to the Y deflection grids and controls the path of the beam thus painting the signal itself on the phosphor. A really simplistic overview.

    Bitmap is the correct term for a table of pixel data, i.e. which phosphors to excite. Some software, like Flexi, uses the term 'rasterize' to create a bitmap. This is a description of the process rather than of the result.

    Bmp, jpg, tif, gif, and legions of others are encoding schemes to compress a bitmap table into a format that can be stored and later reconstituted.
     
  15. Baz

    Baz Very Active Member

    Just curious .... Why doesnt Flexi open up .gifs ?
     
  16. Fred Weiss

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    Can't say for sure but CompuServe started claiming copyrights on the format and some software developers started shying away from supporting the format.
     
  17. bob

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    Probably a couple of reasons. Gif is an old proprietary Compuserve format and a gif file can have a transparancy color. Only until recently could Flexi deal with bitmap transparancies. Moreover a gif file really isn't just an encoding and compression scheme. A gif has dither information, color tables, and all sorts of stuff that would tend to make Flexi swoon. A gif file is far more a synthesis than other formats they really don't make for hi-res images. I can only assume that the Great White Fathers at ScanvecAmiable found it way too much of a hassle to deal with gif files for at best limited results.
     
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