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how to roll premasked frosted vinyl

Discussion in 'General Signmaking Topics' started by bigben, Sep 12, 2018.

  1. bigben

    bigben Moderator

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    So I have an upcoming job that will require 300 linear feet of 3m dusted vinyl (48in roll) with the SCPS-53X premask. The biggest piece will be 4ftX8ft. I've had problem in the pass with the premask tunneling from the part that have no vinyl and not stick very well to the liner directly.

    My question, is it better to roll the material with the premask on the inside or outside of the roll? Would you suggest another type of premask to avoid tunneling?

    Thanks
     
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  2. fenris242

    fenris242 Professional Snow Ninja

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    I've had the same problem. My only suggestion would be to roll it with lettering out, but on a fairly wide tube (12" diameter???) then secure it once it's all rolled on. That should prevent the tunneling.
     
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  3. DerbyCitySignGuy

    DerbyCitySignGuy Active Member

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    Any application tape is going to create tunnels and bubbles if you roll it inwards. Always roll application tape to the outside if you have to. Even then, no guarantee you're not going to get some issues here and there. If you can, store flat, transport flat, ship flat.
     
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  4. AKwrapguy

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    Like Deby said roll it with the premask on the outside. Also use a hi-tack premask this will also help out with the issues.
     
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  5. showie

    showie New Member

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    Cut, but DO NOT WEED, the vinyl in question.
    Premask.
    Roll losely on a large diameter core.
    Reverse weed on site.

    It is 100% more PITA than weeding in the shop, but it's how my installers and I figured on doing something similar because we had so many issues with the traditional method.
     
  6. bigben

    bigben Moderator

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    That is a very interesting idea. The design is just plain rectangles. So I don't have any inner parts like a ''O'' to remove.
     
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    Wait, like just one big rectangle? do you even need app tape? if it's lots of little ones it makes sense.
    Is transporting flat an option? cos that's the best option.
     
  8. bigben

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    It's lot of small rectangles. If it was just one piece, I wouldn't bother with premask. I think the larger piece is 7ft long. So I could put them between two sheet of something. But with a total of 300 linera feet, I think it will become heavy to transport in the stairs/elevator.
     
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    player Major Contributor

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    Use cardboard sheets.
     
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  10. SignosaurusRex

    SignosaurusRex Major Contributor

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    Or stack all of your pre-masked stock between two sheets of Corplast taped along one edge. Make a giant storage / transport folder of sorts....
     
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  11. bigben

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    This is exactly what I was thinking, but it will be a problem to get into the elevator.
     
  12. SignosaurusRex

    SignosaurusRex Major Contributor

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    Use the stairs ...or pull your stock from the folder once you get there and loose roll for transport up the elevator. You can also roll a 4' x 4' x 4mm piece of Corplast into a tube 4' x 16" dia. to roll your stock / material onto in order to fit the elevator. How difficult can it be?
     
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