HP 335 Print an Cut or 1624 Mutoh

[morty87]

So my epson gs6000 crapped out just long enough for me to get the "bug" on this digital wide format printing. I was hoping to use it long enough to do a magnets project I had in the works, but that didn't work out! lol

Sooo i am going to buy another used system but with warranty an new print heads etc etc. I'm here in Vancouver so I am looking at a mutoh 1624 but then saw the HP latex print an cut system. I am planning on doing a lot of canvas work, banners, posters, wall paper and vinyl. Would like to try vehicle wrap...but nothing any time real soon. I am trying to build things up.

In your expert opinion what would be the best machine for light everyday use an like I said mostly poster, canvas an banners to start with and the occasional wall paper mural.

The mutoh is 8k cdn with flexi software and a 3 month warranty. They doing a total refurb with new print head etc. Not sure about the cost of the print cut system as I just thought more about it tonight and see it has the ability to print an deliver with same day service if necessary.

Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Ahmed Samy Nagada]

I own both VJ1624 and HP L26500, I would recommend the VJ over the L26500 allot. I do recommend also that you drop the Flexi rip and use Wasatch instead. I use Summa D140 to cut. Excellent combination.

 

[BigfishDM]

The 335 is a much better unit than the old 26500 version. I would go latex for those application, if you are worried about the quality for your canvas, send me your best file and I will show you the quality it does. Does it have some limits, of course but not as many as some other machines do. If you like banding and daily cleaning and long dry times, go with something different than latex. If you want to offer more applications that are profitable and you don't print a lot of pastels, go with Latex!

 

[morty87]

The 335 is a much better unit than the old 26500 version. I would go latex for those application, if you are worried about the quality for your canvas, send me your best file and I will show you the quality it does. Does it have some limits, of course but not as many as some other machines do. If you like banding and daily cleaning and long dry times, go with something different than latex. If you want to offer more applications that are profitable and you don't print a lot of pastels, go with Latex!

Thank you, I appreciate your input.

 

[spooledUP7]

Ultimately only you can answer this for yourself because it boils down to your abilities, needs, and capacity. That said, I would go with the HP because for me it meets all of those things. I don't own a Mutoh 1624 so I will not speak of things about that I don't know, but I will illustrate the abilities, needs and capacity for the HP.

• The Mutoh will require more shop space since (like most printers) it loads from the back. The HP loads from the front and can be pushed up against a wall. I need space so its a massive check mark for me.
  
• The HP Generates heat and requires adequate climate control. I got that covered, check mark.
  
• The HP is fully cured and ready for lamination. Honestly this was huge for me, Check!
• I already have plotters, and I don't want my printer tied up plotting so Check.
  
• I can service my own printer. Print heads are cheap and easy to install along with all the other consumables. Check
• HP prints on vinyl, banner, canvas, textiles, paper, and whatever else you can try. I have printed on chrome, brushed, and other hard to print media (although not without a lot of trial and error) Check
  
• 64" media capable down to 15". Many other printers limit the width of material based on the nip rollers. The HP has nip rollers space ever 1/2" or so there is no limit (well 12" width is too small) Check
• When running narrow rolls the print head travels the roll width and not the entire length which saves print time.
  
• Automatic winder, Check
• Tech support (Honestly the best techs in the business work for HP wide format division) Double Check
• Wide gamut. 6 color is the minimum for me. Check
• Optimizer means non-laminated prints don't scratch.
  
• Built in profiler/spectrometer
• Low power consumption relative to its curing capabilities (Requires dual 220v power for US models when most printers are 110v)
  
• Fast prints without compromised quality
  
• Event notifications (I am alerted via email when something is low, potentially bad, or soon to be bad)
• Works with Flexi out of the box. (Credit to Flexi for being awesome like that really)

Anyway, best of luck.

 

[morty87]

Ultimately only you can answer this for yourself because it boils down to your abilities, needs, and capacity. That said, I would go with the HP because for me it meets all of those things. I don't own a Mutoh 1624 so I will not speak of things about that I don't know, but I will illustrate the abilities, needs and capacity for the HP.

• The Mutoh will require more shop space since (like most printers) it loads from the back. The HP loads from the front and can be pushed up against a wall. I need space so its a massive check mark for me.
  
• The HP Generates heat and requires adequate climate control. I got that covered, check mark.
  
• The HP is fully cured and ready for lamination. Honestly this was huge for me, Check!
• I already have plotters, and I don't want my printer tied up plotting so Check.
  
• I can service my own printer. Print heads are cheap and easy to install along with all the other consumables. Check
• HP prints on vinyl, banner, canvas, textiles, paper, and whatever else you can try. I have printed on chrome, brushed, and other hard to print media (although not without a lot of trial and error) Check
  
• 64" media capable down to 15". Many other printers limit the width of material based on the nip rollers. The HP has nip rollers space ever 1/2" or so there is no limit (well 12" width is too small) Check
• When running narrow rolls the print head travels the roll width and not the entire length which saves print time.
  
• Automatic winder, Check
• Tech support (Honestly the best techs in the business work for HP wide format division) Double Check
• Wide gamut. 6 color is the minimum for me. Check
• Optimizer means non-laminated prints don't scratch.
  
• Built in profiler/spectrometer
• Low power consumption relative to its curing capabilities (Requires dual 220v power for US models when most printers are 110v)
  
• Fast prints without compromised quality
  
• Event notifications (I am alerted via email when something is low, potentially bad, or soon to be bad)
• Works with Flexi out of the box. (Credit to Flexi for being awesome like that really)

Anyway, best of luck.

Dang! Seriously...SOLD ME!! Pretty much everyone of your points applies to me (except plotter) is what I require. Thanks. truly appreciated! Just emailed to get a price list on a few different HP models.

 

[spooledUP7]

Dang! Seriously...SOLD ME!! Pretty much everyone of your points applies to me (except plotter) is what I require. Thanks. truly appreciated! Just emailed to get a price list on a few different HP models.

There are other several options/solutions out there so I recommend you do your homework and sleep on it. There's a whole lot of other variables to consider when purchasing a printer and if you miss something that is significant to your needs you may regret it later. Roland printers are also amazing, versatile, and relatively inexpensive, an they meet a lot of people's needs, so do your homework for sure.