HP White Option

[mpn]

I've been nursing an injury/health issues for a while now. I'm a latex fan and when I get back to it I'll be looking for another HP. My question is how does the 700/800 series do with 2nd surface flood white prints? Is it painfully slow to get it opaque? TIA!

 

[balstestrat]

How opaque you want it? It's not too bad in my opinion and I would recommend 630.

 

[dypinc]

I thought the 630 can only do 3 layer. If you really want it opaque you will need to go to 700/800 series which does 5 layer image/white/black/white/image.

 

[balstestrat]

Yeah but is he asking for 2nd surface or double sided? 630 is fine for 2nd surface, you don't need sandwich for that unless it bothers that you can slightly see the image from the back.

 

[dypinc]

But on windows when viewed from inside the 3 layer will be real bothersome especially for double sided.

 

[mpn]

I'm doing acrylic prints, non illuminated. The prints are usually printed on clear then backed with white vinyl. Some of the prints have a backer board so 100% opaque wouldn't be necessary in the majority of time. I've had a Surcolor with white and it didn't cut it opacity wise.

I would like to cut out the printing and applying of vinyl but don't wan the headaches of white I've run into in the past and the HP products seem to line up on paper. I love the HP printers I have but would like real use feedback.

 

[mpn]

Thanks for the heads up on the 630, how long has that one been out?

 

[MarkSnelling]

Do you do enough volume to consider a flatbed and just printing directly to the acrylic?

 

[mpn]

Do you do enough volume to consider a flatbed and just printing directly to the acrylic?

This is what I'm shooting for but I'm going to need to replace a 335 we wore out. I could still use a R2R in the intermediary and on smaller orders.

 

[balstestrat]

Thanks for the heads up on the 630, how long has that one been out?

It's been out now 1,5 years. It can do the same 2-layer as 700/800. I really recommend it if you don't need the maximum output of 700/800. The daily usage is better on 630.

 

[MarkSnelling]

If you have the volume, the Colorado in the M3W build would be dramatically faster than the latex device. While it comes at a cost, it is several times faster with less expensive ink. The cool part is if your demand grows, you could upgrade the unit to a M5W and get more speed and production.

 

[johnnysigns]

I have an HP R2000 and we honestly use white vinyl to flood second surface prints 9 times out of 10 Vs running it on the HP. We do more volume than smaller quantities so that should be noted. I do like the white on here, but I feel like this thing drinks white ink even on a mid level opacity white layer. It will also slow print times dramatically for running the white + color as under/over flood. Just my take and not law so take that for what it's worth.

 

[mpn]

I appreciate the feedback guys!

 

[Fbermudez]

Company I work for went from a 570 to a 800 w, they had a lot of print quality issues . They got rid of the latex and got a swiss Q

 

[balstestrat]

Company I work for went from a 570 to a 800 w, they had a lot of print quality issues . They got rid of the latex and got a swiss Q

That totally makes sense, from 25k machine to 500k. I bet there was no other factors in play.

Again that's why I always recommend 630 rather than 700/800.

 

[Fbermudez]

That totally makes sense, from 25k machine to 500k. I bet there was no other factors in play.

Again that's why I always recommend 630 rather than 700/800.

The 800 started having banding issues three months after it was installed, the boss was not happy with the service department they pretty much replaced everything in that machine and it was still having issues I think they got a lemon.