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Huge Wall Wrap Scaling/DPI Settings

Hey Guys,

I have a landscape photo of a beach that needs to be printed for an interior wall wrap dimensions are 150"x936"

I have an istock JPG image that is 77"x181" at 72 DPI. I am going to duplicate and mirror the image into 2 pieces.

If I scaled it at 1/10th what DPI should it be setup at? Save as TIFF?

How can I make sure the quality is good before printing?
 
I think your asking for the wall dimension at 1/10th? If so, it would be 15 x 93.6 @ 720 ppi. But unless you plan on stretching and distorting the image, you will need to duplicate and mirror it just over 4 times, not twice.
 

visual800

Active Member
If you are starting out with 72 dpi this tells me right then the image will not look good. You cannot start out low and improve. You need a 300 dpi at the least UNLESS this wall is not viewable up close.
 
72 dpi is fine for upclose viewing unless you are using very small text, which I doubt you are doing on such a large area. But you cannot enlarge it once you import it into the actual size document. So as per my previous post, if you make the document those dimensions, when you import the layer, do you just stretch it larger or you will lose quality. That is why I was saying you will need to duplicate it more than 2 times if you intend to cover the entire wall with the same image.
 
72 dpi is fine for upclose viewing unless you are using very small text, which I doubt you are doing on such a large area. But you cannot enlarge it once you import it into the actual size document. So as per my previous post, if you make the document those dimensions, when you import the layer, do you just stretch it larger or you will lose quality. That is why I was saying you will need to duplicate it more than 2 times if you intend to cover the entire wall with the same image.

Terms defined:
LPI = Lines per inch = Linescreens used for offset printing
DPI = dots per inch = printer capability
PPI = Pixels per inch = raster image data


I have found that 100 ppi "can" work pretty well without seeing the rasters if it is a large image. 250ppi seems to be a sweet spot of file size versus quality. Particular images may show "jaggies" - images that have a lot of diagonal parallel lines are ones that come to mind - and may need higher resolutions.

[LPI setting could help - but I think that is archaic/artistic at this point]

All these ppi numbers are actual size. Sometimes it is easier to scale down in the file and scale up when outputing.

If your image does not meet the quality requirements - you can up the resolution - but this will often require a Gaussian blur to hide that you did it. I'd suggest printing a swatch of the image to see.

If there is text on the image - that needs to be set in Illustrator or InDesign to make sure vectors are used.

Your current file is 37ppi at the height constraint. I'd say that is too low. Resample the image in photoshop to 100ppi - Gaussian blur it (perhaps a bit or unsharp mask) and print a small area to check. Pick an area that might show problems.

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This is the Istock image that was purchased. XXXL Version
13060 x 5537 px | 43.5 × 18.5" @ 300 dpi

http://www.istockphoto.com/photo/tropical-white-sand-virgin-beach-12912556?st=ee5a9ed

When I download the image and open in photoshop the file opens up at:
76"x181" 72 DPI

I will stretch the image and make it 3 pieces just like the attachment you see below. Now what is the best way to set this up?

I do appreciate everyones feedback!
 

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OnOne Perfect Resize. It's what we use here. Works a treat. IIRC they have trial versions.

Same here..... At 72 dpi it is fine. If you were to change it to 300 (without resampling) it would be the size iStock showed. Ultimatlety I would scale it to the dimensions I need in Perfect Resize, then do the final duplication and save it out as a tiff for print.
 
Same here..... At 72 dpi it is fine. If you were to change it to 300 (without resampling) it would be the size iStock showed. Ultimatlety I would scale it to the dimensions I need in Perfect Resize, then do the final duplication and save it out as a tiff for print.

18.5" x 300ppi = 5550 pixels
73" x ? = 5550 pixels
5550 pixels / 73" = approx 76 ppi
 

visual800

Active Member
This is the Istock image that was purchased. XXXL Version
13060 x 5537 px | 43.5 × 18.5" @ 300 dpi

http://www.istockphoto.com/photo/tropical-white-sand-virgin-beach-12912556?st=ee5a9ed

When I download the image and open in photoshop the file opens up at:
76"x181" 72 DPI

I will stretch the image and make it 3 pieces just like the attachment you see below. Now what is the best way to set this up?

I do appreciate everyones feedback!


ahhh so photoshop is jacking up the dpi! I despise photoshop sometimes. Why cant you open it at 300dpi? Personally I think 72 is going to suck
 
ahhh so photoshop is jacking up the dpi! I despise photoshop sometimes. Why cant you open it at 300dpi? Personally I think 72 is going to suck

I'm not sure why you think Photoshopp is "jacking up the dpi"? Can you explain?

In Photosop (as in any professional raster program) there is a "resample" button. Without checking the resample button, Photoshop just re-configures the file. Keep in mind pixels is the only real statement of file quality - in your case 5550 pixels high. The dpi (really ppi) is per inch - call it pixel density. We need the proper pixel density at "actual sze."

Either Photshop constrains the ppi setting (300ppi vs 72ppi) and changed the inches based on the total pixel count (5550 pixels) or it constrains the inches and changes the pixel count to match. In either case the file size remains the same.

Is this clear? I am really trying to figure out how to explain this as clearly and concisely as possible.
 

J Hill Designs

New Member
I'm not sure why you think Photoshopp is "jacking up the dpi"? Can you explain?

In Photosop (as in any professional raster program) there is a "resample" button. Without checking the resample button, Photoshop just re-configures the file. Keep in mind pixels is the only real statement of file quality - in your case 5550 pixels high. The dpi (really ppi) is per inch - call it pixel density. We need the proper pixel density at "actual sze."

Is this clear? I am really trying to figure out how to explain this as clearly and concisely as possible.

+1 - its doing nothing to the file - if you uncheck resample and change dpi to 300, the image size will drop down to the 18"xwhatever
 
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