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illegal use of font

Discussion in 'Fonts and Typography' started by John Butto, Sep 13, 2013.

  1. OldPaint

    OldPaint Major Contributor

    looks like HELVETICA TO ME)))))
     
  2. John Butto

    John Butto Very Active Member

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    It is called Plane Crash. OldPaint, you need to move up to 250 on the reading glasses.
     
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  4. The Vector Doctor

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    Yes but how do you know when a font can or cannot be used for this purpose? This same font can be downloaded from any number of sites but there is no mention of the copyright or permitted usage at many of those sites

    It is not like a watermarked image or a font for purchase. It is listed or offered for free at probably 100s of sites without these terms and conditions

    It says this "(Free for personal use only. Read conditions of use and buy font licenses on www.wmkart.com)" at Dafont.com but probably not everywhere.
     
  5. Pat Whatley

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    Isn't that the same as asking when a picture you found on Google Images can or cannot be used because you found it on a bunch of sites and there's no copyright info on the picture from one of them?
     
  6. royster13

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    I have seen various spins on this subject.....One such spin is that only the font file is protected by copyright and as soon as it is used in a creation and converted to outlines the copyright does not follow....Not sure if this has been tested in court though...
     
  7. Gino

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    I have this one on our computer. It's called 'You Rock'
    PLANE.jpg
     
  8. OldPaint

    OldPaint Major Contributor

    the guy took HELVETIC....and added the garbage to it))))))
     
  9. Signed Out

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    It's not helvetica, look at the R.
     
  10. Signed Out

    Signed Out Very Active Member

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    Nevermind, I was looking at Gino's version, which is different.
     
  11. Tiki

    Tiki Font Sage

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    He took Coolvetica (Typodermic) and added the grunge effect ))))))
     
  12. Gino

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    So perhaps, he stole the font, bastardized it and claims as his own ?? It could happen.
     
  13. Pat Whatley

    Pat Whatley Major Contributor

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    Tiki, man, we're gonna have to schedule an intervention to get you to stop spending all your time cruising font sites.
     
  14. The Vector Doctor

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    Yes but I would be willing to bet everyone on here that have thousands or tens of thousands of fonts on their computer and use those free fonts on signs and have not paid for the license to use them

    The whole idea of free fonts is quite confusing and most don't know that they cannot be used this way. They really aren't free if you are running a business making signs and then use those fonts.
     
  15. signage

    signage Major Contributor

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    That is true of a lot of things used in any business!
     
  16. visual800

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    If I cruise a site looking for a font like on dafont and I download it, yes Im gonna use it. im not ome to read fine print. If you want me to know something dont hide it spit it out. Like if you go to sign fonts there is no doubt you gotta pay!
     
  17. Pat Whatley

    Pat Whatley Major Contributor

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    They don't hide it. Right above the DOWNLOAD buttons on dafont.com if will either say FREE or just FREE FOR PERSONAL USE. Then when you download it and unzip the file there's a "read me" file in there that nobody ever reads. That's where the rest of the commercial use info is.

    I can't find the article but i remember reading that the guy who made the Bleeding Cowboys font has sued several major companies over its use, NBC was sued by FontBureau for $10 million, Rick Santorums campaign paid out $2 million for using unlicensed fonts. Sure, Bob down and Sign Pimps using an unlicensed font on a real estate sign won't be noticed but when you start dealing with national campaigns people start paying attention.
     
  18. WildWestDesigns

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    As Pat mentioned, I fail to see how that is hidden in the fine print?

    I might also add, that people not reading the fine print is how a lot of people get into trouble with the contracts that the sign or agree to by using the product. Regardless if you read it or not, if you violate it, you can get into trouble if you are caught.
     

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  19. visual800

    visual800 Very Active Member

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    define personal and as far a readme file no I do not read those they are deleted. Is there not 1 sign guy on this site that has nottaken a free font?


    or how about a company sending over a logo in a jpeg and you have to match and recreate. You look for the font and MYFONT wants $40 and dafont is free download, i guess alot of you would pay for the font wouldnt you?
     
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