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Info on past Avery failures

Discussion in 'Vinyl' started by cdiesel, Sep 7, 2012.

  1. cdiesel

    cdiesel Very Active Member

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    I'm looking for some info.. Does anyone have any links to articles or anything documenting the past failures? Wasn't there a site like averysucks . com or something?
     
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    signage Major Contributor

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    Chris if I remember correctly some of the ones having major failures posted picture on here at the time. Not sure how to search it but I think some are on this very site.
     
  3. cajun312

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    I had posted a bunch on the letterhead forum, I don't know if that's still around.
    When I had posted them, an Avery dealer went on that forum and said all the shrinkage was an installation problem. :banghead:

    They have never gotten another penny of my money.
     
  4. Border

    Border Very Active Member

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    LOL Chris.... I am the person who hosted that site! Just sent ya an email.
     
  5. Gino

    Gino Major Contributor

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    Yeah, they told me 'APPLICATION FAILURE'. We were capable of wrapping all the other vehicles, but anything with their vinyl involved, either discolored or fell off. Didn't take us long to drop them, either.
     
  6. Border

    Border Very Active Member

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    Funny, they paid me quite a bit and then some, after BEGGING me to take down my web page. They even paid me to install another manufacturer's vinyl instead of using more Avery vinyl.

    Gotta love the internets!
     
  7. Jillbeans

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    My pix were on the site.
    I got screwed up the butt without lube by Good Old Avery.
    It's sooo much fun to peel off two layers of vynull on a big old van.
    And that lawyer's window, glad I caught it before they did.
    The SignGold was fine but that layer-o-Avery underneath it wasn't.
    I think I was compensated $14.
    Love....Jill
     
  8. cajun312

    cajun312 Active Member

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    You are lucky. My vendor at the time was Denver Sign Supply and they flat out did nothing to help me. Three times I sent them samples from the bad rolls and they never even sent them to Avery.
    After about a year I finally got a credit.....for more Avery vinyl. Denver refused to let me use the credit for other products. Fellers actually got involved and had the credit transferred to them and let me buy whatever I wanted with it.
     
  9. 401Graphics

    401Graphics Very Active Member

    :omg:
     
  10. jayhawksigns

    jayhawksigns Very Active Member

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    Had a new salesman for one of our suppliers come in and try to talk to us about Avery, mentioned to him two or three items from Avery that I will buy because I haven't found another item that will work and past that, don't mention them again to me.

    He tried to push it and I told him that if Avery would pay for all of our failed installations due to their bad vinyl, then I still wouldn't use them. He didn't say anything else.
     
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    I had a lot help from Fellers to recive some money. Got a little money (around $20/h) for labor and vinyl replacement (never use it). They didn't honor customer invoices. They have they way to price labor. Since I don't care how good they product is. I will never try it again.
     
  12. cajun312

    cajun312 Active Member

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    I found a picture from one job. This was on a 28' box on a delivery truck. This was two months after installation.
    I got lucky on having to replace this job, the company went broke not long after this photo was taken.

    Notice not only the shrinkage but the texture of the vinyl.
     

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  13. Msrae

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    I am assuming that site is no longer up. I too was interested in what happened with the big Avery issue since I came on here after it was over.
     
  14. geb

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    Ya, I had trouble with the reflectiveA7 white and yellow starting to turn black, and the cast vinyl would shrink noticably. When 7 year engineer grade reflective vinyl starts to turn black spots and patches in less than two years, that is a problem. There are alot of pics and posts if you do a search here. I have not used Avery since, never again.

    Funny, I lettered a sign with the A7, in no time did the rflective part of the vinyl fall off, but the adhesive remained on the board so you can still see the wording to this day, that was probably 8, 10 years ago.

    George
     
  15. cdiesel

    cdiesel Very Active Member

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    Thanks guys. And thank you Doug! That should help tremendously.
     
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    Typestries Very Active Member

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    Yup, that's Exactly what happened to us, and the reflective issue mentioned as well on just under $200k of invoiced work. Ouch.

    No avery my shop rate is not $10/hr, nor $15 nor $20
    No Avery I DO NOT want to replace these jobs with your material
    NO Avery I don't believe your BS that it's our fault
    Yes Avery I lost clients over this and a lot of good ones too.

    Yes Avery I believe this was the result of a calculated systemic change to your manufacturing process, not an isolated mistake as you claim



    Yes Avery, I will NEVER use your vinyl again. I repeat No avery for us EVER again.
     
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    Hmmmmmm www.3msucks.com Now theres a thought due to the recent activity on this board.Just saying
     
  18. cdiesel

    cdiesel Very Active Member

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    It's funny how "systematic, calculated changes" can effect how customers choose to do their business. Not just vinyl failures, but other "changes" that are made in the way large companies do business.. Hmm..
     
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