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Interested in the Epson Resin line, tell me what you love and hate about them.

Kernersville Vinyl

Kernersville Vinyl

New Member
Been printing trailer wraps on HP Latex 365's for about 9 years, they are fairly reliable printers with the downside being the quality on jobs that require hi-res prints, fine for trailer wraps, but not great for product labels or photo quality prints.
I don't see us ever going to anything that requires outgassing, seems like too much trouble.
Let me know what you think.
 
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bdw99

New Member
I ran a latex 570 for 5 years and just switched to an r5070 a few weeks ago. This is my first resin machine but I can give my first initial thoughts about it.

First things first I will say that to me, the HP has better "quality of life" aspects to it. Things seems to be a little more clunky and less streamline with the r5070. For example, the take up roll on the epson is so close to the floor, so taking off larger rolls can be cumbersome. I also really miss the fact that the 570 had an internal hard drive, which would allow me to queue up multiple print/cut jobs to print continuously. With the epson you have to wait until the print job is complete before doing the next. Also, print profile selections are more limited.

As far as color/consistency goes Epson is definitely better. It can hit colors like grey way better than latex can. In higher pass modes the quality is great.

Also huge first impression is that the Epson has a much better build quality. Very little plastic parts, very nice pinch rollers, even the platen is metal.

Like I said I'm very new to this machine but these are some of my first impressions.
 
White Haus

White Haus

Not a Newbie
bdw99 said:
I ran a latex 570 for 5 years and just switched to an r5070 a few weeks ago. This is my first resin machine but I can give my first initial thoughts about it.

First things first I will say that to me, the HP has better "quality of life" aspects to it. Things seems to be a little more clunky and less streamline with the r5070. For example, the take up roll on the epson is so close to the floor, so taking off larger rolls can be cumbersome. I also really miss the fact that the 570 had an internal hard drive, which would allow me to queue up multiple print/cut jobs to print continuously. With the epson you have to wait until the print job is complete before doing the next. Also, print profile selections are more limited.

As far as color/consistency goes Epson is definitely better. It can hit colors like grey way better than latex can. In higher pass modes the quality is great.

Also huge first impression is that the Epson has a much better build quality. Very little plastic parts, very nice pinch rollers, even the platen is metal.

Like I said I'm very new to this machine but these are some of my first impressions.
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I don't have any experience with Latex or Resin printers, just wanted to give you a tip for loading multiple files, assuming you are using Onyx. (If not, then you may be correct about not being able to send down multiple jobs at once)

In Onyx set your Placement Strategy to "Print Jobs Individually". Click the gear icon to get in the (placement strategy) options and check the first box: Print Triggering: Automatically Start Printing.

This will automatically push files to your printer until it runs out of files in the queue.

**NOTE** Get all your files set up beforehand or make sure they're on hold until they're truly ready to print. Onyx doesn't care if your files aren't ready - it will just keep printing whatever gets loaded in the queue.

Very useful feature if you want to keep jobs separated or in smaller batches, and don't want to keep sending jobs down manually.

Hope this helps.
 
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victor bogdanov

Active Member
White Haus said:
I don't have any experience with Latex or Resin printers, just wanted to give you a tip for loading multiple files, assuming you are using Onyx. (If not, then you may be correct about not being able to send down multiple jobs at once)

In Onyx set your Placement Strategy to "Print Jobs Individually". Click the gear icon to get in the (placement strategy) options and check the first box: Print Triggering: Automatically Start Printing.

This will automatically push files to your printer until it runs out of files in the queue.

**NOTE** Get all your files set up beforehand or make sure they're on hold until they're truly ready to print. Onyx doesn't care if your files aren't ready - it will just keep printing whatever gets loaded in the queue.

Very useful feature if you want to keep jobs separated or in smaller batches, and don't want to keep sending jobs down manually.

Hope this helps.
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The epson r5070 wastes 3 ft of material between jobs if sent this way. One of the more annoying things about it. Doesn't start the next job until the previous one goes completely through the dryer.
 
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bteifeld

Substratia Consulting & Printing;Ergosoft Reseller
Does anyone know the picoliter droplet sizes for the R5070's printhead?

If it is obnoxiously large, that might be a reason to be concerned.
 
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yannb

New Member
bdw99 said:
I ran a latex 570 for 5 years and just switched to an r5070 a few weeks ago. This is my first resin machine but I can give my first initial thoughts about it.

First things first I will say that to me, the HP has better "quality of life" aspects to it. Things seems to be a little more clunky and less streamline with the r5070. For example, the take up roll on the epson is so close to the floor, so taking off larger rolls can be cumbersome. I also really miss the fact that the 570 had an internal hard drive, which would allow me to queue up multiple print/cut jobs to print continuously. With the epson you have to wait until the print job is complete before doing the next. Also, print profile selections are more limited.

As far as color/consistency goes Epson is definitely better. It can hit colors like grey way better than latex can. In higher pass modes the quality is great.

Also huge first impression is that the Epson has a much better build quality. Very little plastic parts, very nice pinch rollers, even the platen is metal.

Like I said I'm very new to this machine but these are some of my first impressions.
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Te gardkk ik nog
victor bogdanov said:
The epson r5070 wastes 3 ft of material between jobs if sent this way. One of the more annoying things about it. Doesn't start the next job until the previous one goes completely through the dryer.
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Indeed, printing consecutive jobs from Onyx directly to a printer can be frustrating if the printer in question does not have a hard drive or controller. Alas, Onyx does not have a spooling method like Epson Edge Rip, Calder, Ergosoft etc. But, there's a workaround.
If you want to spool jobs much faster from Onyx to the R5000, or any Epson that works with a communication driver, in Onyx go to File -> Managers Printers and change the connection from TCP/IP to the Windows driver, and select the appropriate Epson comm driver. Next, in Windows find the Printers and Scanners control panel, and choose the Epson comm driver, and click Manage. Then go to Printer Properties, tab Advanced and change from Print directly to the printer -> Start printing immediately.
Now Onyx will send its output to the Windows driver much faster, and the Windows driver will allow queuing of jobs to be printed. As long as these jobs use the same number of passes, not much media is wasted between jobs. An additional benefit is that you can pause jobs or the entire Windows printing queue, but keep on sending jobs from Onyx. Keep in mind though that Onyx operators need to be aware of the fact that in case they need to cancel jobs, they need to look into the Windows queue to perform this task.
 
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victor bogdanov

Active Member
yannb said:
Te gardkk ik nog


Indeed, printing consecutive jobs from Onyx directly to a printer can be frustrating if the printer in question does not have a hard drive or controller. Alas, Onyx does not have a spooling method like Epson Edge Rip, Calder, Ergosoft etc. But, there's a workaround.
If you want to spool jobs much faster from Onyx to the R5000, or any Epson that works with a communication driver, in Onyx go to File -> Managers Printers and change the connection from TCP/IP to the Windows driver, and select the appropriate Epson comm driver. Next, in Windows find the Printers and Scanners control panel, and choose the Epson comm driver, and click Manage. Then go to Printer Properties, tab Advanced and change from Print directly to the printer -> Start printing immediately.
Now Onyx will send its output to the Windows driver much faster, and the Windows driver will allow queuing of jobs to be printed. As long as these jobs use the same number of passes, not much media is wasted between jobs. An additional benefit is that you can pause jobs or the entire Windows printing queue, but keep on sending jobs from Onyx. Keep in mind though that Onyx operators need to be aware of the fact that in case they need to cancel jobs, they need to look into the Windows queue to perform this task.
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Cool I'll try that
 
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ikarasu

Active Member
victor bogdanov said:
The epson r5070 wastes 3 ft of material between jobs if sent this way. One of the more annoying things about it. Doesn't start the next job until the previous one goes completely through the dryer.
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Goto your media setting and turn on media feedback after curing to on. It'll rewind the media to the beginning... It's default to off / half way, but the only media I found needs that is the cheapest roll up banner so it prevents wrinkles. For every other media I have it roll up, and its never been an issue...and it doesnt waste even an inch
 
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