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Is it time to upgade to FX

Drip Dry

New Member
I bought our Gerber edge in 2001. Except for a bad control panel in the first week, it's run flawlessly since.
Also have a Gsx with it that's showing it's age.

Considering to upgrade to the FX
I know when they came out, people were having a lot of problems with them.
Now a few years later, I'm hoping the bugs are worked out.

So, my question... Do you have one... would you buy it again
Did you have an edge 2 to compare it to

I like using a machine that's already paid for, but if I don't, I'm going to need to spend some money
to keep this running.

Thanks for any comments
 

artofacks1

New Member
I have an edgefx and so far it works good. However I do not have anything to compare it since its my first machine I ever owned.

The envision is a great machine to.

I hate the econo Jr laminator though. I'm looking for another desktop size laminator and I want to sell this one.


I bought our Gerber edge in 2001. Except for a bad control panel in the first week, it's run flawlessly since.
Also have a Gsx with it that's showing it's age.

Considering to upgrade to the FX
I know when they came out, people were having a lot of problems with them.
Now a few years later, I'm hoping the bugs are worked out.

So, my question... Do you have one... would you buy it again
Did you have an edge 2 to compare it to

I like using a machine that's already paid for, but if I don't, I'm going to need to spend some money
to keep this running.

Thanks for any comments
 

Jase

New Member
Had an engineer out to service my machine a couple of weeks ago. He stated that he preferred the Edge 2 for build quality etc, mentioned the quality of the chasis. You can still buy refurbed Edge 2's. That's the way we went when we decided to buy another.
 

Karen Souza

New Member
Had an engineer out to service my machine a couple of weeks ago. He stated that he preferred the Edge 2 for build quality etc, mentioned the quality of the chasis. You can still buy refurbed Edge 2's. That's the way we went when we decided to buy another.

Edge 2 all the way...have 2 of them!
 

Typestries

New Member
If you are looking to upgrade and don't want to trade your existing machine, I have an older edge for $700 that will get you the $5k trade in. I bought it new in 1998 its the side hinge with the vet top (Gen 3 I believe) It does have a couple of bad pixels. LMK if you are interested. Seriously thinking about a new one, even with all of our inkjet tech still a relevant technology for some applications.
 
Gerber is discontinuing service on the Edge 1 come May of 2015. No telling when they will discontinue servicing the Edge 2. Servicing a machine for 22 years is outstanding. Compare that to getting service on other types of late model printers. Although people like what they have, I can't think of a reason, other than to save money, that you would want to buy another Edge 2. The FX is more capable. And it may give you more confidence buying the machine that Gerber is putting the most effort into.

You can get $5,500 for your Edge 2 as a trade, or keep your Edge 2 and buy an FX/enVision package if you are looking to upgrade both printer and plotter. If you want to hang on to your Edge 2, and only buy the FX, taking that option that Typestries mentioned could save you some money. Don't be concerned with using your current stock of ribbons with the FX. There are adapter caps that will allow you to without problems.

The important thing is not to be caught without the most versatile printer out there, the Gerber Edge 1, 2, or FX.
I'm a fan. There are various different software options with each upgrade choice. Ask your dealer, or you can contact us.

Doug Goodloe
Gerber Specialist
800-232-8018
 

Drip Dry

New Member
Gerber is discontinuing service on the Edge 1 come May of 2015. No telling when they will discontinue servicing the Edge 2. Servicing a machine for 22 years is outstanding. Compare that to getting service on other types of late model printers. Although people like what they have, I can't think of a reason, other than to save money, that you would want to buy another Edge 2. The FX is more capable. And it may give you more confidence buying the machine that Gerber is putting the most effort into.

You can get $5,500 for your Edge 2 as a trade, or keep your Edge 2 and buy an FX/enVision package if you are looking to upgrade both printer and plotter. If you want to hang on to your Edge 2, and only buy the FX, taking that option that Typestries mentioned could save you some money. Don't be concerned with using your current stock of ribbons with the FX. There are adapter caps that will allow you to without problems.

The important thing is not to be caught without the most versatile printer out there, the Gerber Edge 1, 2, or FX.
I'm a fan. There are various different software options with each upgrade choice. Ask your dealer, or you can contact us.

Doug Goodloe
Gerber Specialist
800-232-8018

I am interested in buying a FX, and that's the reason for the post. A few years ago when it first came out, it seemed that it was very unreliable. Seemed no one was happy.
So now I hope the bugs have been worked out.

But since no one has posted that they are real happy with it, it makes me wonder if it is a better machine.
The Edge I have ( I think it's a LE ) runs great, but after 15 years, I think it's time to upgrade.

I was just hoping a few people would have chimed in telling me how great it is... Anyone ?
 

jfiscus

Rap Master
I'd like to weigh in on this as I think I've had a lot of experience w/ each model.
At my last position we had an Edge FX and it printed good and fast, but it DID consistently have more errors and waste more material then the Edge 1 & 2 that we have here.

Ours here (both the Edge 1 & 2) print every type of material combo that we need (and run every day!) and hardly ever have any errors. We consistently do long runs on both machines in multiple colors w/o errors.

For the negligible time savings I would just stick with a good working Edge 1/2.

The only advantage that I've seen of the newer Edge FX & Envision plotter (and newest Omega) is that you can "home" both and never have to use the alignment tool. That isn't enough to make us interested in an upgrade.
 

Drip Dry

New Member
I'd like to weigh in on this as I think I've had a lot of experience w/ each model.
At my last position we had an Edge FX and it printed good and fast, but it DID consistently have more errors and waste more material then the Edge 1 & 2 that we have here.

Ours here (both the Edge 1 & 2) print every type of material combo that we need (and run every day!) and hardly ever have any errors. We consistently do long runs on both machines in multiple colors w/o errors.

For the negligible time savings I would just stick with a good working Edge 1/2.

The only advantage that I've seen of the newer Edge FX & Envision plotter (and newest Omega) is that you can "home" both and never have to use the alignment tool. That isn't enough to make us interested in an upgrade.

Thanks J

I'm glad someone had some real world comments about the FX

I could keep the edge I have and invest some money into it, It does run pretty well, although the plotter needs some work. Just trying to decide if it's worth to spend 15K or keep what I have.

Anyone else have any thoughts
 

jfiscus

Rap Master
If you have the HS15+ The Plotter Doctor can send you the replacement parts to bring it back as good as new.
 
Thanks J

I'm glad someone had some real world comments about the FX

I could keep the edge I have and invest some money into it, It does run pretty well, although the plotter needs some work. Just trying to decide if it's worth to spend 15K or keep what I have.

Anyone else have any thoughts

Are you saying that all marketers are liars :) In the real world we just had a customer who replaced their 2nd print head in 5 years. That was on an FX. We had another customer who had an Edge 1 who turned it over. That's over 999,999 minutes, or 5.7 years worth of 8 hr printing days. There's no difference in the print head model. We had to replace a foil motor or two and a board on that Edge 1. Early on, I agree, the FX had some issues. GSP sourced some parts that weren't perfect, and they made it to the field. Oops. But I honestly don't think you can pin an award to one machine over another. It has a lot to do with the environment and how well it's kept. It's also a matter of personal preference. We service and support Gerber equipment, primarily Edges and plotters. We have lots of real world experience. (It's not in our best interest to exaggerate, or steer anyone wrong.)

With that said, I can vouch for the Edge II. It was my favorite machine until I worked with the FX for a year or two. The Edge II is a direct connect and doesn't experience the hiccups that a networked FX might. But that's a network issue. That can be solved by direct connecting with a crossover cable. (Stay away from wireless.) I can change a cartridge in the Edge 2 with my eyes closed faster than I can with the FX. However, I don't have to open the FX to change the cartridge. Not opening the cover keeps your prints cleaner and saves those gas pistons that hold the cover up. The point I was making for your best interest was that Gerber will stop servicing them at some point.

Your Edge II is working well today. Many of our customers will wait until their machines break. Then instead of fixing them, they will redirect that $ to an upgrade. That may be a good lead to follow.

Doug Goodloe
800-232-8018
 

Drip Dry

New Member
Are you saying that all marketers are liars :) In the real world we just had a customer who replaced their 2nd print head in 5 years. That was on an FX. We had another customer who had an Edge 1 who turned it over. That's over 999,999 minutes, or 5.7 years worth of 8 hr printing days. There's no difference in the print head model. We had to replace a foil motor or two and a board on that Edge 1. Early on, I agree, the FX had some issues. GSP sourced some parts that weren't perfect, and they made it to the field. Oops. But I honestly don't think you can pin an award to one machine over another. It has a lot to do with the environment and how well it's kept. It's also a matter of personal preference. We service and support Gerber equipment, primarily Edges and plotters. We have lots of real world experience. (It's not in our best interest to exaggerate, or steer anyone wrong.)



With that said, I can vouch for the Edge II. It was my favorite machine until I worked with the FX for a year or two. The Edge II is a direct connect and doesn't experience the hiccups that a networked FX might. But that's a network issue. That can be solved by direct connecting with a crossover cable. (Stay away from wireless.) I can change a cartridge in the Edge 2 with my eyes closed faster than I can with the FX. However, I don't have to open the FX to change the cartridge. Not opening the cover keeps your prints cleaner and saves those gas pistons that hold the cover up. The point I was making for your best interest was that Gerber will stop servicing them at some point.

Your Edge II is working well today. Many of our customers will wait until their machines break. Then instead of fixing them, they will redirect that $ to an upgrade. That may be a good lead to follow.

Doug Goodloe
800-232-8018

Doug, please don't get me wrong. I wasn't suggesting that that you were just a marketeer. But, you do work for the company and can't or shouldn't say anything negative.
Not that has any relevance here but 17 yrs ago I worked in field service for a company you probally know that's headquarted up your way. One of their pieces of equipment was in my opinion was rock solid and they sold a ton of them because of it's reliability .
The company decided to stop production and build a better one. You know, more bells and louder whistles. The new one... WHAT A PIECE OF JUNK.
I left the company 3 or 4 years later and even with all the redesigns, it still was junk.

So when I'm looking for comments from end users such as myself, that can basically say what they feel, that's why I call it real world. Please don't be offended

Now this discussion is a good one because I would have never thought about direct connect and will make sure I stay away from the network thing.

I not sure but I think reading your post, that if you were an end user, that you would be saying you prefer the edge 2 as opposed to the fx. Just sounds that way to me.

Your last comment was about waiting until my machine breaks and then replace it.
That's why I'm at this point. I want to put something in place before I have to scramble.

My options:
I can keep what I have and have Gerber or Reseller take it back and do whatever it needs to make it like new. I'm sure that won't cost as much as buying new, and I know how reliable it is. I feel it's still in very good condition, but it will never be new.

Or I can upgrade
I will get a new FX and plotter ( my old one needs work )
I will be able to upgrade my computer to something newer because my old one is a dog. I also wouldn't be tied down to a parallel port that nobody seems to supply with a new computer.
Lastly, it would upgrade me to ver 5.0. I'm on ver 2.5 but all I use it for is to bring in a GAD file from Flexi, set the colors and cutlines and send it to the edge. I could never design in it.

Sounds like upgrading is the way to go but it is expensive, but I have this bad feeling in my stomach that it may be a headache especially since not many here are commenting.
Is it that people are not interested in commenting ( I doubt it in this forum ) or has Gerber not sold many of them and there are just not that many people in the pool to draw from


C'MON KIDS

There must be others that have an opinion

PS Doug, I think I have the LE model. Is that the same as the Edge 2. Is it eligible for the trade in ?
 

jfiscus

Rap Master
I know I've been weighing in a lot, but also:
You can buy crossover cables to convert that parallel cable to USB. That is what we run here w/o problems.
We run brand new PCs on Windows 7 and Composer 4.0.X here and run an Edge 1 & 2.
 

artofacks1

New Member
Against the advice of many, I have my edge f2f hooked up to my wireless router and I send stuff to print using my Mac book pro that has Windows 8 installed and I run Omega 5 on it.

It runs awesome and I can send files to print to my edge fx anywhere from.the building.

I just wish the envision had the same set up. I have to plug into that .
 

Ditchmiester

New Member
We had an Edge 2 and Traded it in for an FX when the print head went out about 2 years ago. We Loved the FX over the Edge 2. It was way easier to load ribbons seemed more reliable. We however decided to upgrade from that to an HP L26500 about a year after getting the FX. It wasn't that the printer was bad just wanted to be able to print wider materials and larger quantities. It is a great machine. I've also got about 2 large boxes of ribbons if you are interested in buying them. Shoot me an email if you are interested Andrew@truxes.com
 

Will308decals

New Member
I have an edgefx and so far it works good. However I do not have anything to compare it since its my first machine I ever owned.

The envision is a great machine to.

I hate the econo Jr laminator though. I'm looking for another desktop size laminator and I want to sell this one.
Have you looked into buying another laminator? Or are you still using your Econo Jr laminator?
 

netsol

Active Member
Artofacks1

You know digit makes ip to serial devices that are rock solid. 4-5 years ago we installed 1 to integrate the ordering system for a company my largest client purchased

We processed 200-600 orders per day & only restarted the device twice in over 2 years

Point is, no need for a direct connection, you can send serial data to an ip reliably
 

netsol

Active Member
Artofacks1

You know digit makes ip to serial devices that are rock solid. 4-5 years ago we installed 1 to integrate the ordering system for a company my largest client purchased

We processed 200-600 orders per day & only restarted the device twice in over 2 years

Point is, no need for a direct connection, you can send serial data to an ip reliably
that is supposed to be Digi (first day usong different ipad)
 
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