www.all4soft.net I got an email about this site and looked at them. They offer for instance a download of Corel 12 for I think it was $39.95, and savings of nearly $400 on downloading FlashMX'04 from them for web development. They have Illustrator equally as cheap! And other Adobe programs as well. They specifically tell you no license is obtained, but they guarantee a full version of the programs to work on a pc. I'm interested in opinions before making up my toy list from them!