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Just removed a 4x4 decal off a brand new ford f150 and....

Discussion in 'General Signmaking Topics' started by gabagoo, Apr 3, 2019.

  1. gabagoo

    gabagoo Major Contributor

    Oct 10, 2006
    Vaughan, Ontario
    Never ever have I seen this before..... I have to take off the 2 4x4 decals on the rear of the bed of a pickup and I just used a heat gun on the low setting and basically peeled the decal off in one piece ( nice vinyl too BTW). So now there is a yellow discouloring left behind...sort of like what the vinyl zapper does on Fords but not as noticeable. You can't feel it and methyl hydrate did nothing. I have no idea what will remove what can only be something that has penetrated the surface.... very strange... did I say this is a brand new sparkling f150?
  2. sardocs

    sardocs Active Member

    Jun 17, 2005
    pender harbour bc
    You know how people on this site are always saying to wait a few days after painting before applying vinyl? Maybe the decal guy at Ford doesn't read those posts.
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  3. bannertime

    bannertime Very Active Member

    Sep 8, 2016
    I did one not too long ago and did not see that. In fact it didn't even leave an outline.
  4. klingsdesigns

    klingsdesigns Very Active Member

    Apr 16, 2012
    You ever try using totally awesome? Thing has done me wonders when other cleaners can't.
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  5. strypguy

    strypguy Active Member

    Jan 18, 2009
    Carroll, Iowa
    I see it mostly happening on reddish colored vehicles. Was your truck red? John
  6. gabagoo

    gabagoo Major Contributor

    Oct 10, 2006
    Vaughan, Ontario
    No it is white
  7. jfiscus

    jfiscus Map Wraster

    Apr 2, 2009
    Cincinnati, OH
    I'd have them get in touch with their dealer immediately.
  8. White Haus

    White Haus Formally known as RJPW..........

    Apr 6, 2018
    Funny you should mention this, we just did a customer's brand new 2019 F-150 and removed the OEM "Sport" decals (same location as where they put the FX4, 4x4 etc) and had the same thing happen.

    I thought my eyes were playing tricks on me but sure enough there is a clear area where it yellowed behind the clear areas of the decal. Where the print was there is no discoloration - just the clear areas. It's like reverse UV yellowing.

    Super strange. Now I'm temped to take my own FX4 decals off just to see but then again I may be opening a can of worms. My F-150 is silver so it might not show as much but I'd say Ford's got an issue on their hands.
  9. GAC05

    GAC05 Major Contributor

    Dec 27, 2005
    Guam USA
    Maybe Ford is following the lead of the mattress tag cabal

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  10. unclebun

    unclebun Very Active Member

    According to F150 enthusiast forums, this has been a common problem since 2015 or possibly earlier. There are two solutions which users post, both of which seem to work.
    1. After cleaning off adhesive the normal way, leave it outside for several days and the yellowing fades away.
    2. "I have an Oxford white truck and removed my decals that had a yellow stain under them. 3M Adhesive remover followed by a quick wash of the area, Meguires clear coat safe rubbing compound followed with polish and wax and was all good. Took maybe 10 minutes of my time to remove the decals and follow the steps above."
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  11. gabagoo

    gabagoo Major Contributor

    Oct 10, 2006
    Vaughan, Ontario
    It's outside until I work on it Saturday...So the same customer has this Lube truck brought in...Brand new from the dealer... So as I am looking at what the customer mocked up I see that there are these 2 rather large decals on the back end of the box, so I call her to say that the decals have to be removed to do what she wants and she says...They were supposed to take those decals off before it was delivered to you. She was sorry and asked if i could remove them. OK no problem. I always try them just with a picking tool at first to see what will be needed and this one I got a hold of the edge but the sheer strength I needed to get it off was more than I have ever experienced... They came off clean wit no heat and left no glue...off to the other side....completely different... This side I got a corner free and I was pulling and pulling and could not really budge it so I got the heat gun out and worked it a bit and started pulling but no this decal was meant to stay... Plugged in the steamer and attacked with that and slowly the decal starts coming off and leaving every bit of adhesive and then I pulled and the top coat released and the graphic part remained but it has no decal around it anymore, almost like the ink is the glue...very weird. I got the rest off and then I used a half a quart of rapid remover and each time , gobs of adhesive snot came off but still the adhesive was on there. I think I have hit it 10 times and each time I am pulling off at least a shot glass of snot...What on earth is this stuff. I ran out of rapid remover and now wait for delivery of more. I have a vinyl zapper but I am a little fearful of what kind of mess that will do toit. I now know why the dealer left them on....

    Strange though that one side came off almost to easy and the other side is a real beatch.

    I think maybe those decals were put on a little too soon after painting
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