Just sold a sign....Now how do I make it?

[Gino]

Wasn't that the whole point of starting this thread?

The point for starting this thread...... that's whatever you wanna make out of it, but it's not about looking for guidance, but how do I get outta this mess I created.

As for what I said...... no, that's not what I said. You already designed it without knowing how to do it. According to your input, you've already designed it, presented it and NOW wanna know how to make it. You have no concerns for the cost and said it probably doesn't matter. That's a new one, too. I hope you have a customer with deep pockets, that's all.

You just don't design a nice sign, then worry about costs or how to build it after the fact. Anyone coming to me, knows if the're gonbna be paying $1,000.00 or $5,000.00, or $25,000.00. There's no guess work or spinning wheels for nothing. Everyone should know what they are getting into before you basically lift a pencil, unless you are making thumbnails.

If this is how you conduct business, more power to ya, but I don't think it would fly for most people.

 

[neato]

As I said in a post above, this is for a friend. I didn't ask about pricing, I asked about fabrication. Should I not have asked that? Is this forum only for guys that know everything already?

I did know as I designed this that it was POSSIBLE to fabricate. I was asking for details on how it should be done. I just forgot how prickly some of you guys are.

 

[Bigdawg]

As I said in a post above, this is for a friend. I didn't ask about pricing, I asked about fabrication. Should I not have asked that? Is this forum only for guys that know everything already?

I did know as I designed this that it was POSSIBLE to fabricate. I was asking for details on how it should be done. I just forgot how prickly some of you guys are.

It's hard for some people on this forum to stay on subject in a thread without trying to disrupt it in some way. I think you've gotten some excellent suggestions for fabrication... and as far as pricing... that's between you and your customer. If your customer is cool with how you are doing business with them, then it's really not anyone else's business how or what you are charging for the sign.

 

[heyskull]

How can you sell a sign and not know how to make it?!!!
This is a recipe for disaster in anyone's books.

I know I can't sell anything unless I know how much the materials and labour come too.
Then I can work out my profit.

You are going to end up out of pocket on this one.

SC

 

[neato]

You are going to end up out of pocket on this one.

 

[ams]

Super easy to do.

 

[Gino]

As I said in a post above, this is for a friend. I didn't ask about pricing, I asked about fabrication. Should I not have asked that? Is this forum only for guys that know everything already?

I did know as I designed this that it was POSSIBLE to fabricate. I was asking for details on how it should be done. I just forgot how prickly some of you guys are.

It's hard for some people on this forum to stay on subject in a thread without trying to disrupt it in some way. I think you've gotten some excellent suggestions for fabrication... and as far as pricing... that's between you and your customer. If your customer is cool with how you are doing business with them, then it's really not anyone else's business how or what you are charging for the sign.

This is a forum to learn and if you or your sympathetic friend can't learn by being given all the facts, then, I feel sorry for you. Copping an attitude and calling people names doesn't seem to fit you, but I guess I had you figured wrong.

As for disrupting things...... how does your post add anything other than when the next person asks for this same advice, we'll just say, it's between you and your customer. Go figure it out for yourself.

You people just never cease to amaze me. You ask for everything and when shortcomings and meaningful information is not thought of or left out.... you get all butt hurt and stick together stroking each others ego(s).

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[billsines]

As I said in a post above, this is for a friend. I didn't ask about pricing, I asked about fabrication. Should I not have asked that? Is this forum only for guys that know everything already?

I did know as I designed this that it was POSSIBLE to fabricate. I was asking for details on how it should be done. I just forgot how prickly some of you guys are.

Yes, this forum is only for people who already know everything so they can look down their noses at people who are starting out. They have forgotten that they, too, started somewhere, have made a bunch of noob mistakes all along the way. Ask a question on how to do something and someone's gonna jump down your throat. I've gotten a little bit of good info from here, but some of these guys think this is facebook and all they want is drama.

Dude, good luck with your business and this project. I like the layout. It's gonna look nice. Quit wasting your time with some of these nerds and focus on your business.

 

[neato]

This is a forum to learn and if you or your sympathetic friend can't learn by being given all the facts, then, I feel sorry for you. Copping an attitude and calling people names doesn't seem to fit you, but I guess I had you figured wrong.

As for disrupting things...... how does your post add anything other than when the next person asks for this same advice, we'll just say, it's between you and your customer. Go figure it out for yourself.

You people just never cease to amaze me. You ask for everything and when shortcomings and meaningful information is not thought of or left out.... you get all butt hurt and stick together stroking each others ego(s).

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I didn't ask for everything, just suggestions on how to fabricate a double sided HDU hanging sign. It was really that simple. This is after all "a place to learn", I thought it was ok to ask.

And prickly isn't a name, it's an adjective. Adjectives are easier to change.

 

[GB2]

Discussions about various methods of sign fabrication are very interesting and enlightening.....whining about people's questions is very counterproductive and distracting.....I would hope we could stay on track here.

 

[Gino]

Neato..... I could care less what you ask, how you ask it or if you are able to use any or all of the information you might take with you. The point being, regardless of asking about costs or not..... has a bearing as far as how you will proceed. One piece, two pieces correct material, weight, methods, 23kt gold or imitation, extra interior or exterior framework, post (with all it's fanciness) and so on. A few things were cleared up, but not after many questions, requesting more information. So many of us inserted more information, as it seemed like you didn't think of it or considered it. Move forward, whether you care about costs, they will always be a vital part in designing a sign no matter a friend or a business. If someone isn't asking price, then they expect it THEIR way. If you design a Cadillac and they have a nice Ford or Chevy in mind, what's gonna give first ?? The money or the design/materials ??

I'm not being condescending, but if you and some of these other cowboys think this is really tough and mean..... most of us are doing it to help you not overlook or totally forget something, as you didn't seem like you had it all in mind from the git go. Hence, the reason I said in the beginning, I gave the benefit of the doubt for you.

 

[Billct2]

I musta missed the part where he asked how much it should cost, or whether he was qualified to make it. Just wanted to ask about some fabrication options. Also when it was said to be for a friend with an expensive lake area home I figured cost wasn't an issue anyhow.

 

[JR's]

Hey neato,
I think you're being very cordial in this thread.

I was wondering which way did you decide to go on fabrication?

I also forgot to add when I was making signs like this we also used either 8 0 aluminum sandwiched or
.5 MDO. For rigidity.
I learned when using MDO don't go all the way to the edge. [It seems to expand or hold the pain differently than HDU]
we started leaving a .5 and filling in with HDU. This seemed to hold up a lot better.

Can't wait to see how it comes out. Good luck

 

[neato]

Thanks! I am going to use 2 panels of 1" HDU with aluminum flat stock in between based on a suggestion from another sign maker. I plan photos of my process once I'm done with it.

 

[Texas_Signmaker]

Neato, next time you ask a question like this, you have to bow down to the all mighty know it all sign people on here and humbly disclose every possible outcome and detail about the job, most importantly the finical information because everyone is soooo worried about that. Also discolse the amount of training you have, insurance coverage, your blood type and vehicle color. Doesn't hurt to ask forgiveness upfront for your lack of knowledge and regret for asking. Also promis to never take on such work again, and hand it all over to someone who knows, that will appease the sign farts around here.

 

[neato]

Hahaha...I'll keep that in mind

 

[mpn]

This thread is great. Good looking sign Neato.