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just the carfax mamm'

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Drip Dry

New Member
Went to buy a new car today. All went well until it cane to my trade.
Dealer ran a carfax and found an accident from a previous owner.
A shock... since I bought it from a reputable dealer as a certified pre-owned

After I got home, I see on the report that it shows an accident in Oct of 2005, but it says in small print,carfax started reporting this information in Mar of 2008.(started reporting accidents altogether, or just this accident ?) This was a year after I bought the car.

So, now my problem, the trade in value now becomes 1/3rd of what it should be. I have no other info from carfax about it. No phone number to call. A website that just wants me to pay for a carfax. I did have an e-mail that I sent to, but they won't open till Monday
Anybody have any experience like this with carfax
Can I force carfax to prove their right ?
 
ProWraps

ProWraps

New Member
on a more serious note.

ive been thinking about this as of late.

if someone runs into my car, my insurance covers me on the fix. or their insurance.

but when i go to sell said car, its worth less due to the new day age carfax showing there was an accident on my car. even if it was fixed to dealer spec. which they were.

i ran into this on my fleet vehicles. both were hit by others. both registered on carfax. so the insurance paid for the fix. but who paid for the fact that the dealer/buyer paid me less due to the carfax report showing it had been hit, and i got less?

im pissed. and im thinking that soon enough there will HAVE to be something that compensates for the vehicle depreciation due to the accident being registerd on carfax.

i lost money. i want to be compensated damn it. it wasnt my fault. but i lost. wtf.
 
OldPaint

OldPaint

New Member
i got a 1999 dodge 1500 ram slt pickup. when i bought it 5 years ago it had 63,000 on it. the dealership ran the CARFAX on it and gave it to me. ZERO ACCIDENTS, the vehicle was a dealer demo, shop vehicle till 24,000, then it went on a lease program till 63,000. so this vehicle had been the dealers PROPERTY till i got it. didnt see any damage on the surface. NOW after i had it bout a year, i decided to put some better speakers in the doors. the truck is BLACK...........i pulled the door panel of the inside of left door and the DOOR WAS RED!!!!!! welllll, you think CARFAX woulda known about an accident where the left door was so bad it had to be replaced??? NOW i got to lookin futher up on the front fender, it to had been repainted, the battery tray had been replaced, and the left headlight lense still had a parts bin lable on it!!!!!!! NOT ONE WORD OF THIS WAS IN THE CARFAX....it was a DEALER VEHICLE, so the DEALER body shop did the repair AND NEVER REPORTED IT TO CARFAX. if it dont get reported.......it dont get recorded))))
 
visual800

visual800

Active Member
Anything you do outside of insurance and or police reports carfax will not know about it. WOW thank for posting that link gypsy I had no idea how crappy and inaccuate they were. The best post on there was from car dealer his was informative
 
CheapVehicleWrap

CheapVehicleWrap

New Member
The worst was my Brother's girlfriend who couldn't pull out of the driveway without having an accident. Although that seemed to change after she got a Saturn Vue.

CLEAN Carfax! TONS of accidents, including 1 that they should have easily totaled the vehicle.
 
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klemgraphics

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The majority of vehicles out there have been repaired at one time or another, no matter if they have 500 miles or 200,000. It's been a while back but at an autobody conference we were told that something like 85% of all NEW vehicles have had some type of paint repair performed before they ever hit the lot, some before they leave the factory and some at the dealership.

You have no idea how many people come in to the body shop and are so worried about their vehicle and want to make sure it is repaired right because it has never been in an accident or had any work done.... HA I would say 95% of them we can tell that they have been repaired, some done well, some not so good. To the untrained eye it can be hard to tell.

I guess what I'm getting at is I don't like the whole carfax BS at all, some repairs never show up. Also, if the repairs were done correctly it shouldn't affect the value of the vehicle at all, in my opinion.

Back when I was at the body shop yet we used to buy a few totaled vehicles and fix them to sell, made pretty good money doing it, saved others money, and all of those vehicles were just as good as any other used car on the market. Once carfax came about it killed the market, you had to sell everything dirt cheap and even then they were hard to sell unless the buyer knew you personally. Needless to say we quickly stopped doing that except for personal vehicles.
 
signage

signage

New Member
Klem is correct you would not believe the number of vehicle damage while on the car haulers, and this damage is never reported to CarFax or the purchaser, they even try to keep it quiet unless you can prove it to them.
 
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