There's no need to be blunt. Some people can't see their own hand 10" from their face.
It's one thing to want to take complete charge of your projects, but only if you can do it. Doing what the OP is doing here is only hurting himself in the long run, hurting his future reputation all while giving the end-user a pitiful job.
I mean..... a blue bathtub with illegible copy ??
For what it's worth, this whole thread could be a lesson to many-many people here.... not only in the design end of things, but how not to tell several stories and write them down....... before you memorize your fibs.
In reality, this is a good exercise on how to delegate. While Addie might be some sort of a salesman, in my findings, people selling inferior products and getting away with it are just banking on not getting caught. No offense, but that's been Addie's whole frame of mind, since coming aboard here.
Let’s take the name out of the equation and try this again.
- We have someone who has a potential customer come in and want signs. They see some of your work, which may or may not be your own.
- You go on to sell them on design.
- You fail miserably for almost a week.
- Said customer finally decides on a bathtub to represent their business for an electric sign in their front window.
- You don’t supply anything except a design [and a very bad one at that] and to decorate the face.
- You can’t install it.
- You wanted him to go to one of the country’s leading designers when all he wanted was a bathtub.
- As mentioned, you referred them to Dan’s work, while showing him total crap.
- You said you wanted experience to help in your designing skills and if anything….. it’s worse than some of the beginning tries.
- You’ve learned nothing…. absofrickin’lutely nothing.
You should’ve been up front with your client and referred them to someone else immediately and taken yourself out of the whole loop.
If you want to broker, then broker. However, you should entertain the thought of never going beyond selling something..... and then finding the appropriate people to finalize your job.
By putting yourself in the middle of this thing, you’ve left the broker person by the roadside and you’re suddenly the world’s worst sign designer and maker.
Blunt, not at all. Just the honest to goodness truth. That #158 post has got to be one of the funniest and poorest layouts I’ve seen anywhere and you don’t even realize it. If this was April 1st, I could understand it, but we’re two weeks past that one.
Besides that, you tell us ‘designers’ want too much money for your projects…. that’s a cop out, too. You’re lowballing everything and have no design fee included, cause you DON’T know anything about it.
Yes, your first problem is your pricing. You don't price for design-time, fabrication, overhead, installation , permits, or any other business related needs. In fact, looking at your website when you first came around..... it sported all kinds of things you said you produced....
and in-house. After that was found out to be a bunch of lies, why is it, you can't design a simple 3' x 5' sign, but you have everything under the sign listed on your website. Who did all that stuff ??
and to think, I thought that title was mine alone. 
