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mac vs. pc

Discussion in 'Newbie Forum' started by james2, Dec 26, 2006.

  1. james2

    james2 Member

    Nov 23, 2006
    i have been working on a pc for ever. i was wondering what the benefits of a mac are? is the mac version of photoshop different than that on a pc?

    it has been many years since i worked on a mac.

    i was under the understanding that as far as graphic programs go, a pc and a mac are similar, true?

    sorry for the stupid question, but after being in the pc world for so long, i never had a reason to investigate the mac.

  2. iSign

    iSign Major Contributor

    Nov 29, 2003
    Kahului, Maui
    You still don't have too many reasons in my opinion, other then the lower incidence of any viris threat, but if you are running a good AV I wouldn't consider that enough cause to switch... there are some PC advantages with software availability.

    There are old threads you could search & read much more highly charged opinions for quite some time.
  3. ENTDesign

    ENTDesign Very Active Member

    May 12, 2005
    There are still many differences between the PC and Mac, but less obvious to the user nowadays. If you already own the software, there is nothing to gain by switching platforms now. However, if you have to buy everything from scratch, you might want to research this more, but it seems to me that the Mac stuff is always more expensive.

    I use both PC and Mac for various reasons. In part, I started out in the mid 80s and chose PC due to the type of software I was running then. I got into Mac around 2000 as I need software compatibility with some of my customers, and I was heartily sick of the MS Hegemon.
  4. james2

    james2 Member

    Nov 23, 2006
    just returned from the local MicroCenter :
    new Mac Pro:
    2 Intel Xeon dual Core Rocessors (2.66 GHZ)
    1GB DDR Ram
    250GB 7,200RPM SATA Hard Drive
    DVD RW Drive
    PCI E x 16 Video Card


    Sony Vaio
    Intel Pentium D Processor 3.2 GHZ
    2GB dual channel DDR2-533 RAM
    Dual 200GB 7,200 RPM Hard Drive
    25GB rewritable drive
    DVD ROM Drive
    7600GT Video Card


    I was also told that if I bought the Mac, I could still use the PhotoshopCS2 that I paid for for my PC. I could contact Adobe and
    they can give me another code, but I still would need to install
    Windows Pro.
  5. djenurm

    djenurm Member

    Nov 8, 2006
    The processors that are in the Mac Pro described above are so far better than the Pentium D that there is no comparison. And there are 2 of them!

  6. james2

    james2 Member

    Nov 23, 2006
    what do you think of this set-up?
    yes, it's a Dell.
    it is expandable, up to 4 hard drives and multiple processors.
    about $2,100.00

    Dell Precision 490 Mini-Tower Dual Core Xeon Proc 5130 2.00GHZ 4MB Cache 1333MHZ

    2GB DDr2 ECC SDRAM Memory 667 MHz, 2X1GB,
    Entry Level, USB No hot key keyboards
    17" flat panel
    128MB PCle x 16 nVidia, Quadro NVS 285, dual DVI or VGA Graphics Card
    250 GB SATA 3.0 Gb/s, 7200 RPM NCQ Hard Drive with 8MB Databurst Cache
    C-1 All SATA Hard Drives Non-Raid for 1 to 2 Hard Drives
    No Floppy
    Windows XP Pro
    48x32x CDRW and 16XDVD+/-RW with cyber link power DVD, Roxio Creator
    No 1394a or Sound Card selected
    No Speaker option
    Resource CD contains Diagnostics and Drivers
    Dell Hardware Warranty plus onsite service, initial year
    Next Day Business Parts and Labor on-site response, initial year
    Hardware Warranty plus on-site service , extended year
    Next Business Day Parts and Labor on-site response, 2 year extended
  7. Derf

    Derf Very Active Member

    This topic has been beat to death![​IMG]

    I went to MAC 10 years ago because I go tired of getting infected with viruses and spy ware. and or making my PCs fort Knox in order to block them out.

    I also go tired of power supplies, mother boards, sound cards going out all the time.

    My first 233mhz G3 still works to this day with out ever breaking down
    my 5 year old G4 power book has never had a problem.. not one
    my 2 year old G5 is still my main work computer.

    I do own PC's too and I replace parts in them all the time. and in the last ten years I have been through about 10 PCs.

    With out going into some long drawn out nerd, geek fest[​IMG] of an argument, I would just say that in my experience The MAC just works better and is a well build machine.
    Last edited: Dec 27, 2006
  8. james2

    james2 Member

    Nov 23, 2006
    not a mac

    point taken.
    so, anyway, opinions on THIS system anyone?
    it would just be the design computer.
  9. Derf

    Derf Very Active Member

    As for this Dell.. Well it's OK but I personally would never buy a Dell. If you going to get a PC then have one custom built by a local computer dealer. You will get better parts and an all around better computer for the some price.
  10. james2

    james2 Member

    Nov 23, 2006
    I've read all th posts about getting a machine built by a a local computer company vs. big box stores, so I don't want to start that argument again.
    If this system is just for design use, do you think it will be fast enough, etc?
    It is gig per processor as it stands now, so I would like to bump it up.

    I looked at the new Mac Pro yesterday, I know it's a better operating system, but the design programs are the same, right? I was wondering how I would be able to use the design programs that were purchased for a pc (if i were to buy a mac).
  11. Derf

    Derf Very Active Member

    It will be fast enough for light graphic work such as vinyl cutting and small to mid sized raster work.

    If you ever plan on doing large vector files with 20-30 layers and linked images such as DS2 or EPS files, or large Raster processing and separations then the computer above will be inadequate.
  12. james2

    james2 Member

    Nov 23, 2006
    what I could change is bumping it up to 4GB and changing the video card to 256mg.

    That should help, right?
  13. james2

    james2 Member

    Nov 23, 2006
    we will be working with huge files all the time.
    semi trailer size full color graphics.
  14. Derf

    Derf Very Active Member

    Huge is a interpreted differently by different people. Trailer sized 72ppi raster files you will probably be OK but your maxing out your recourses.

    Huge to me is a 9 color spot process art file with 30-60 layers with 12 linked DS2 files set up to separate at 180LPI.

    I would seriously either get the fastest Athlon processor with at least 4gigs of ram and a terabit of storage or Get one of the faster MAC Pro towers with the same RAM and storage.

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