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Magnum Engage Magnetic Receptive vs HP Latex 365

Discussion in 'Materials' started by Stinky Prints, Nov 7, 2019.

  1. Stinky Prints

    Stinky Prints New Member

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    As a head’s up, we were sold Magnum Magnetics Engage media as a substitute for Visual Magnetics Poly 8 material. After winning a big account, and printing a fair amount of large displays, we discovered the Engage doesn’t lay flat on the existing magnetic substrate. We suspected this was due to the heat of the latex curing process. Talked to Magnum today and they confirmed this. They’ve sent us some of their in-house custom profiles, and we’ll give these a shot today and will update here.

    In the meantime, anyone else had this issue? and since Visual Magnetics seems impossible to source right now, does anyone have any suggestions on a material that would work with our latex printer or does anyone have profile suggestions for using the Engage on our HP Latex?

    Thanks! - Destin
     
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    Update - Magnum cannot supply profiles that work with our Flexi RIP and our HP Latex 365. Anyone have a profile and could share the temp and ink% values? Would be greatly appreciated!
     
  3. dypinc

    dypinc Very Active Member

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    So Magunm does not not supply oms files for the 300 series printers.

    Go here and look. https://www.printos.com/ml/#/medialocator

    Or create a new media preset with these settings and make a new profile.

    Printer settings
    Curing Temperature
    75.0 ºC
    Drying Power Leading
    0.0 %
    Drying Power Trailing
    0.0 %
    HP Latex Optimizer
    28.0 %
    Heat Airflow
    182.0 mmH2O
    Ink Limit
    70.0 %
    Input Tension
    N/A N/m
    Load as
    PET Film
    Mode
    20.0 passes CMYKcm 70.0 ink N/A
    Output Tension
    N/A N/m
    Vacuum
    10.0 mmH2O
     
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  4. Stinky Prints

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    Awesome, thanks dypinc! Wish I would have seen this earlier. After wasting a ton of media to create our own profile, came in with similar numbers to what you've posted except was able to bring the temp down to 160F (71C) and use 16 pass. Guessing we can get away with a little cooler as we are high altitude (6300ft / 1920m) with extremely low humidity. Ink seems properly cured even at the 80% coverage level.

    Magnum did have their own profiles created for in-house use, but as you mention, they will work with Onyx, not Flexi. For whatever reason, their rep wasn't able to get us the values we needed to build our own profile. We did search HP also, but no joy there either.

    These will be a mix of indoor and outdoor graphics, will update once we print and try to roll this out onto our magnetic substrate. Hopefully the material will retain it's dimensional stability with the lower curing temp. Also have a sample of Ultraflex Signetics Ltx on the way. Thanks all for the advice and will update once we install today.
     
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