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matching color from a photo

Discussion in 'Adobe' started by Jb1983, Jan 7, 2019.

  1. Jb1983

    Jb1983 Member

    Aug 4, 2018
    Vancouver island
    Have a photo of a boat and im trying to achieve that color from. Its just a color I really like and want to be able to print as closely too as I can.
    So if I literally just print the photo that I got from the internet the color prints just like I want it, but when I use the color picker and create the cmyk the test print is way off. How do I create the matching color?
    Designing in Illustrator, Rip thru Flexi
  2. shoresigns

    shoresigns Very Active Member

    Nov 1, 2011
    Vancouver, BC
    The colour is changing because the photo is most likely RGB and you said you're converting to CMYK when you use the eye dropper to grab the colour.

    If you want the colour to match, you need to use the colour picker (eye dropper) in the same colour mode as the photo (RGB), and using the same ICC profile (probably sRGB, Adobe RGB, or uncalibrated). One easy way to start a document with the correct settings is to simply File > Open and select the photo. Illustrator will embed the photo in a new document with the correct colour mode and profile. Then you can use your colour picker to reliably get the same colour.

    One additional step you may need to do is ensure that your RIP is applying the same render intents to vector and raster colours. I'm not sure where that would be in Flexi, but it's a question that comes up here all the time, so try searching for it.
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  3. unclebun

    unclebun Very Active Member

    The other issue, once you start sampling the color in RGB, will be that the color in the photo is not one uniform color but a blend of lots of colors that are close. They'll vary because of lighting over the object's contours. So if you sample one pixel you'll get one color, while the neighboring pixel will be another.
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  4. bigben

    bigben Very Active Member

    Sep 3, 2007
    if the printed color is ok for you, I would compared that printed image to a pantone chart and use that pms color.
  5. gabagoo

    gabagoo Major Contributor

    Oct 10, 2006
    Vaughan, Ontario
    I would say that the colour is actually made up of thousands of colours..grabbing one pixel won't work. I thought the same thing way back when my printer weas new and I never could get a bright rich red, and then I printed a photo and the colour was perfect...on closer examination you see that it is made up ofthousands of blending shades of red
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  6. The Vector Doctor

    The Vector Doctor Very Active Member

    Aug 15, 2005
    Also when using the eyedropper make sure you set it to sample a 3x3 or 5x5 average in the options if the color is dithered as mentioned above
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  7. Jb1983

    Jb1983 Member

    Aug 4, 2018
    Vancouver island
    Yes ive noticed this I actually printed 6 samples that were picked from different location on the photo and all gave different colors. I then found the closest match to what I was after. Still not really what I was hoping for. Its a pastel so hard to hit on my HP Latex.
  8. Solventinkjet

    Solventinkjet DIY Printer Fixing Guide

    Aug 2, 2011
    Denver, CO
    I wish there was a tool that took a sample of a an area of pixels instead of just one pixel for this reason. It still wouldn't be perfect but taking multiple samples and averaging them would seem to work better.

    Edit: Looks like I missed vector doctor's comment. I learned something new today!
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  9. KarinM

    KarinM New Member

    Mar 27, 2014
    New York
    It probably has more to do with the color management of your rip than the sampled values. I'm not familiar with Flexi, but I've run into this before. For example, I placed a photoshop image into illustrator, sampled it and created a spot color "xxBlue" using the same exact values. My rip didn't recognize the color name so it allowed me to enter the values manually. The two items printed very different. GMG explained that the manual values aren't color managed, that you're bypassing color management handling it this way. So in order to get them to match you could either add the spot color to your color library, set your spot color to process in the illustrator swatch, or just make sure that both printed items are sent through on the same print queue.

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