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Matching Red Vehicle Color for 1/2 Wrap

Discussion in 'Vehicle Wraps' started by Signs4Realtors, Aug 7, 2012.

  1. Signs4Realtors

    Signs4Realtors Member

    Jul 26, 2008
    Canyon Lake, CA
    How can I print a nice fire engine red color on 3M IJ180 that will somewhat match the red color of a 2012 Honda Fit?

    I have printed every color red in my color swatches and can't get a close match. I have even taken a picture of the car and brought it into AI and the printed color is still way off.

    I simply need a fire engine red or a ketchup red...the CMYK default red isn't close and the Roland color chart reds aren't close either?


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  2. Flame

    Flame Major Contributor

    Apr 26, 2006
    Sorry but it's just not going to happen. Eco Sol printers can't hit the same colors as paint, and you'll NEVER get the two to match up perfectly. You can try until you're blue in the face, or you can just become like all the other wrap companies and accept it isn't happening and work you design around that knowledge.
  3. J Hill Designs

    J Hill Designs Major Contributor

    Sep 24, 2004
    where does it have to match? cut it at the black line
  4. mudmedia

    mudmedia Active Member

    Aug 15, 2008
    by the looks of your proof your dealing with metallic red base on the car and it seems pretty dark..your not gonna get anything really bright redder then lets say 0 100 100 0 ... thats the best that works for us or pantone 186c red isnt bad...
  5. CanuckSigns

    CanuckSigns Very Active Member

    Nov 11, 2008
    I'm wondering this myself, use the red in the car to your advantage, make this a partial wrap.
  6. thesignexpert

    thesignexpert Active Member

    Oct 21, 2007
    What Flame said... you have to remember that you are trying to digitally "fake" a red using C,M,Y,K as compared to the automotive paint which is true color, bright & brilliant. You can play with different profiles for better saturation in an attempt to get a more brilliant red out of your printer but at the end of the day you are still only tricking the eye into seeing red.
  7. SignosaurusRex

    SignosaurusRex Major Contributor

    Mar 7, 2007
    Washington State
  8. Signs4Realtors

    Signs4Realtors Member

    Jul 26, 2008
    Canyon Lake, CA
    Thank you all for your input! It is greatly appreciated! The red is only in the lettering/outlines and it is only a partial wrap. My client just picked a red swatch that is close enough for him so hopefully when it is printed, laminated and installed it will look good installed and in the sunlight.
  9. Gene@mpls

    Gene@mpls Very Active Member

    Jun 17, 2003
    Blaine, Mn
    Cut out the red lettering? I wouldn't bother with the outlines.
  10. rjssigns

    rjssigns Major Contributor

    Jun 4, 2007
    Home Office
    Could do that job with black, white and gray hi perf vinyl. No need to print anything since you would "knock-out the lettering and use the car's base color for the red.

    We do this on a smaller scale when we have to exactly match a boat color. We cut registrations and graphics that are the outline/shadow/accent to the base color. No it is not cheating.
  11. wildside

    wildside Very Active Member

    Aug 28, 2005
    with all that black between the red outline and the paint, and if your laying the red along the bottom, just close is good enough, the eye will automatically think it is the same color just by association

    we have done two different colors of red on a white truck before, didn't have time to order more of the right color, with the 3 feet space between them, he thought it was a dead on match, but lay the pieces side by side and looked completely off
  12. Patentagosse

    Patentagosse Active Member

    Aug 17, 2011
    Joliette, Quebec (Canada)
    Sometimes I have to print some patches of colors in order to save me from ordering colored vinyls. In these situations, colormatch may be crutial but we can't re-invent the wheel and have the deal with CMYK mix, not true OEM pigment. I have a client that owns big Kenworth and honestly, the paint is so much flash red that you can't look at it under direct sunlight w/o hurting your retina (...) No way you can match this in CMYK. In your office it looks amazing but you place your sample over the paint and suddently your "amazing" red (under neon lights) is turning brownish or pinkish (read UGLY). The only way I found is to print the red twice (overpass: 2 in VersaWork) or by using sunflower yellow as base color. Sure, it only works when you print a "patch" for cutting separate letters, not for wrapping.

    To me your half wrap looks easy to do by simply using the red of the car's paint (for bottom section) and picking the closest red for the letters in the middle. With the distance from the actual paint, nobody will notice it.
  13. J Hill Designs

    J Hill Designs Major Contributor

    Sep 24, 2004
    you light your office with neon?!?
  14. Kentucky Wraps

    Kentucky Wraps Kentucky Wraps

    Mar 6, 2009
    Simple test. Take a photo of the car on the shaded side, then one on the side with the sun hitting it. Also one with indirect light on it. Now compare all 3 photos next to each other and you'll see 3 completely different colors. Due to flakes in the paint, and the thickness of the clear coat bouncing the light around, ....what they said...it's not possible.

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