Matte Graphic with Holographic Overlays

[MAK'n Signs and Graphics]

Hello everyone!
Looking for some guidance on a particular project I am working on with a new to me effect. I have wrap that i designed and am now going to produce that the client wants to be a matte finish. I plan to do a matte overlaminant on the entire design to achieve the requested effect. The client also wants holographic ovely accents applied. In the past I have installed the overlays then laminated with gloss and the effect of the holographic overlay is still there. I know if I use this same process but laminate with matte the holographic effect will be muted.
Is it safe to install the overlays on top of the matte laminate? Or am I setting my self up for failure doing this? Is there a trade trick that I am unaware of that would help protect the overlays?
The end requested result is a matte finished car with the holographic overlay accents creating an eye catching effect.
Thank you for any and all help!
*Feel free to tag any past threads I may not have found yet as well. I'm always willing to learn.

 

[JBurton]

I would think the way to do it would be install the holo areas, install the wrap, then cut the matte over the holo and remove, leaving 1/8" or so of matte on top of the holo. Of course, if the holo fails before the wrap, both will need to be removed, and metallic effect vinyl tends to fail faster than wrap films...

 

[IsItFasst]

I have used matte laminate over the top of holographic material and was not impressed with the outcome. Almost all the holographic properties were lost from the matte finish. It's what the customer wanted and they didn't complain but it certainly did not look like a traditional holographic once laminated.

 

[MAK'n Signs and Graphics]

I would think the way to do it would be install the holo areas, install the wrap, then cut the matte over the holo and remove, leaving 1/8" or so of matte on top of the holo. Of course, if the holo fails before the wrap, both will need to be removed, and metallic effect vinyl tends to fail faster than wrap films...

It is going on a dirt track race car so 1 maybe 2 summers then likely will be removed and replaced.

 

[MAK'n Signs and Graphics]

I have used matte laminate over the top of holographic material and was not impressed with the outcome. Almost all the holographic properties were lost from the matte finish. It's what the customer wanted and they didn't complain but it certainly did not look like a traditional holographic once laminated.

Yea i don't want to loose the holographic effect. I'm leaning towards printing then laminate matte and apply to vehicle. I just wasn't sure if I need to laminate the holographic first before applying it on top of the matte print, or if that is just wasting money and material.

 

[BigNate]

... for a similar effect in the offset printing world, the use of spot-varnish is used. If the whole thing needs to be protected, spot the matte everywhere not holographic, and then spot gloss over the holo.

If I was setting this up for wide format, I may try to use a gloss lam over the holo elements - possible plotted vinyl and bleed a little over into the matte areas.... then put a plotted matte lam over that butt fits against the holo elements. This will give gloss and holographic effect still... depending on the size and your equipment, this could be difficult to align. But using matte with cutouts and gloss behind, but on-top of holo will give the desired effect.

 

[MAK'n Signs and Graphics]

... for a similar effect in the offset printing world, the use of spot-varnish is used. If the whole thing needs to be protected, spot the matte everywhere not holographic, and then spot gloss over the holo.

If I was setting this up for wide format, I may try to use a gloss lam over the holo elements - possible plotted vinyl and bleed a little over into the matte areas.... then put a plotted matte lam over that butt fits against the holo elements. This will give gloss and holographic effect still... depending on the size and your equipment, this could be difficult to align. But using matte with cutouts and gloss behind, but on-top of holo will give the desired effect.

Thanks for the insight! My equipment is 54 in HP printer, 54 inch cutter and an old 60in auto feed cold roll laminator. I don't have much space for layout purposes so I'll have to be creative with how I put it all together.