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Media recommendations for wall graphics

Discussion in 'Installation Equipment & Techniques' started by ElJay, Mar 22, 2013.

  1. ElJay

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    My shop does a lot of large indoor wall graphics. Looking for a decent print media that I don't have to laminate and won't fall off the wall in a week/month/year. The vinyl we've used in the past (3M, Oracal) doesn't want to stick to painted drywall, or much of anything else apparently...Anyone?
     
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  2. wildside

    wildside Very Active Member

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    phototex is what we use and love
     
  3. Billct2

    Billct2 Major Contributor

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    I did a job with phototex and loved it. The wall should be painted with flat I believe.
     
  4. BigfishDM

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    Adhesive fabric is a good option, it's expensive but works great for those apps.
     
  5. BigfishDM

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    Ultraflexx has one that's pretty good also
     
  6. LarryB

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    Phototex works great.
     
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    +1 for PhotoTex, magnificent stuff.
     
  9. CanuckSigns

    CanuckSigns Very Active Member

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    Phototex is great stuff but it's $$$

    we've had great luck with Avery 2611
     
  10. ElJay

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    We've experimented with wallpapers but because we almost always work in dirty, cramped construction environments, laying out sheets flat and adding paste to them is unrealistic. Also, the areas we work with most often are quite large (20 feet wide by 15 feet tall and larger) so a self-adhesive rolled material is really our only option. We've been using a printable fabric that is satisfactory, but even with following the manufacturer's recommendations we're having durability issues...it scratches/scuffs easily especially in areas of heavy ink coverage. I've set my ink limits, selected proper ink profiles, and cranked my heaters up on all my printers but solvent ink just doesn't seem to cure properly on the fabric and doesn't respond well to rough handling.
     
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    Having good results with Mactac Roodle - cut contour right to the edge - stays flat no problem - printing with a Roland XC-540
     
  12. HulkSmash

    HulkSmash Major Contributor

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    all 3m IJ35c attached.
    0 lifting. 0 issues. Easy install. All drywall.
    if you cant get it to work on drywall, you're doing something wrong.
     

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  13. BigfishDM

    BigfishDM Merchant Member

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    Killer looking, great work man!
     
  14. ElJay

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    Outside of not cleaning the surface well enough or not allowing the paint adequate dry time, what could we be doing wrong?

    I agree, BTW. great work.
     
  15. JBarraxSW

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    Nice work. :)
    We offer a polyester fabric called PrismJet 234 WallTex that's similar to PhotoTex, but it adheres better on slightly textured surfaces. We have 4' x 4' wall graphics in our training room that have been up for a couple of years now. No lifting.
    http://www.signwarehouse.com/c-printer-inks-media-M-W-PJ-WALL.html
     
  16. KaranGrewal

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    + 1 , wht type of laminate you use with IJ 35c ?
     
  17. BigfishDM

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    Lol wait till you get a nasty message from Walter for using his brand name in your post.
     
  18. Northern Design

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    caution on using Avery 2611, try a test printed test piece first, lots of shrinkage
     
  19. DIGITAL DESIGNS

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    I just did a wall in my sons room and have used Optima (believe it is an advantage sign supply house brand) and has done well.
     
  20. TDFcustomSL

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    :goodpost:I have seen it and it does look good and seems to stick around the edges great, we pulled most of it off and it stuck right back down, even around the edges. I would love to play around with some of this but cant justify buying a roll to play with just yet. All the wall graphics ive done they wanted CHEAP so i used the cheap oracal, they didnt care if it took the paint off, its going to be up for many many years anyway.
     

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