i just wanted to chime in ..doubt many will listen but ....i agree on isigns post about having to pay a bit more for good support ..whereever it is ..im in with tubelite company ...ive used the same salesman for 10 years now ,,all through the gerber omagas ,plotters ,,edge era and now on into the flexi8 mimaki show ..ive bonded with them and i get good support when i need it ..now i even though there semms to be a LOT of people visiting this board,theres a thousands that dont out there ,and they all have tools too ..we see on here the very,very small amount of people having trouble with programs and different tools ..out of thousands out there being used ...so one cat gets in a pickle and calls out a comapny with problems ,theres a thousands that are working fine ....it also seems by reding that a majority of problems surround a system that is patched together with all types of machines ,programs ,these add on programs that make it all talk to each other ...lotta things ,lotta confusion ,,lotta b.s. ....im no real smart cat but i know if you get a whole system that is "matched" to work together the problems will be less ....gonna have some no matter what ,,,,isign put a drawing on here once of his system in his shop ,i printed out and kept so when i get a deal where i need all that stuff im gonna have a pretty good idea of "what -hooks-up-to what" i just dont feel its fair to ANYcompany to get a bad rap on here cause of a few problems ....program ,printers,cutters,etc .i do think there trying also to help if they can ......one thing a person has to see here ,there selling waaaaay to many printers and programs without enough people to work on them ....you know how many MIMAKI printers alone are shipped and sold in the u.s.a. a month? heard from good source 500...thats a lot of printers! not counting all the other brands ...i bet theres 200-300 new shop trying to start up every couple months also .and they DONT have a clue so there burning up the tech lines along woth veterans .. not near enough trained people to work on them at ANY distributor...if you have a rep that you can talk to anytime ,,be grateful! o.k. im done ..hope i didnt make any one mad .just talkin