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Name that font :)
- Thread starter Jen Goodwin
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Fred Weiss
Merchant Member
Tell your customer he should stop specifying clones he snags on the internet. The name of the font is Bellevue and it used to be distributed by Adobe and gained considerable popularity. Then H. Berthold, the owner of Bellevue, went bankrupt (repeat after me: clone=pirated, pirated=clone, clone=stolen, stolen=financial loss, financial loss=bankrupt) and the new owners who bought it up cancelled all their contracts with Adobe and others.
Today, H. Berthold operates their own website where they market their fonts. You can find Bellevue at H. Berthold.
Today, H. Berthold operates their own website where they market their fonts. You can find Bellevue at H. Berthold.
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Jen Goodwin
New Member
Thanks Fred! That's exactly why I couldn't find it! (clone=pirated=lots of wasted time looking for fonts=higher bill) :Big Laugh
Pretty font though, I'm going to buy that one.
Pretty font though, I'm going to buy that one.
Dave Drane
New Member
$99 for a single font, Jen?. It looks good in the website, but when it makes words I find it fairly ordinary, but then again my likeness for fonts tends to lean towards more meatier stuff. Isn't it a good thing we all see things different? 
Fred Weiss
Merchant Member
It's a frilly-dilly foo-foo font. Us macho men would never use it. 
Dave Drane
New Member
It must be in our jeans Fred!! 
Fred Weiss
Merchant Member
Dave are we doing a double entendre here? It may be in your jeans but it is in my genes. :Big Laugh
Fred Weiss
Merchant Member
Jen Berthold doesn't sell single fonts. For the $99 you are getting three fonts .... all frilly-dilly foo-foo though.
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Driving Force
New Member
I have it on my system, and I'm sure I didnt download it from somewhere. I was thinking it came on the system as a windows font. its in true type. Its name is duchess and is identical. I would send it to you if its not against the rules.
Darren
Darren
Fred Weiss
Merchant Member
Jen Goodwin
New Member
Now if I downloaded that font...would I not be adding to the (repeat after me: clone=pirated, pirated=clone, clone=stolen, stolen=financial loss, financial loss=bankrupt)? What made you post a link, Fred?
I think all the frilly-dilly foo foo fonts in that package for $99 are nice, but then again I am just a girrrl!
I think all the frilly-dilly foo foo fonts in that package for $99 are nice, but then again I am just a girrrl!
Fred Weiss
Merchant Member
I posted the link because I found it. I guess I can be just as bi-polar as the next guy. I hate that it is there but I also recognize the reality that it is. And I make a distinction between pointing you to it and supplying it to you ... which is what was about to happen to this thread.
Jen Goodwin
New Member
Well, Thanks, but I didn't need it afterall. She supplied a nice file that I can print easily, after some coaching. 
jimdes
New Member
Actually Fred, I was going to do the same thing: Point to a location where it is located on the internet. Fact of the matter is, if you know the file name of a font, you can find it just about every time, that's the problem with conventional font naming.
If I were a font foundry, I think I would give the font a name and give the file a numeric name. It wouldn't stop the madness, but it sure would make things very frustrating for Pirateers.
If I were a font foundry, I think I would give the font a name and give the file a numeric name. It wouldn't stop the madness, but it sure would make things very frustrating for Pirateers.
Fred Weiss
Merchant Member
I guess I don't see what that would do.
Bitstream has always used that approach.
Bitstream was the first major foundry to be cloned. It was a product named Typecase and was 120 renamed Bitstream fonts, sold 7 million copies in 1993 at $59 a pop and was named PC Magazine Product of the Year.
Bitstream was persuaded by Adobe and Agfa not to sue (for fear of losing) and reached a settlement with Swfte (the cloner) wherein Swfte, while admitting no wrongdoing and paying no compensation, agreed to move at least one node on each vector if they ever repeated what they had done.
Swfte went on to become known as Expert Software and released Typecase II and Typecase III before moving on. Bitstream went in and out of Chapter 11 bankruptcy in the next couple of years.
Bitstream has always used that approach.
Bitstream was the first major foundry to be cloned. It was a product named Typecase and was 120 renamed Bitstream fonts, sold 7 million copies in 1993 at $59 a pop and was named PC Magazine Product of the Year.
Bitstream was persuaded by Adobe and Agfa not to sue (for fear of losing) and reached a settlement with Swfte (the cloner) wherein Swfte, while admitting no wrongdoing and paying no compensation, agreed to move at least one node on each vector if they ever repeated what they had done.
Swfte went on to become known as Expert Software and released Typecase II and Typecase III before moving on. Bitstream went in and out of Chapter 11 bankruptcy in the next couple of years.
jimdes
New Member
The point would be that it is much easier to find a font you are looking for if it has the same filename as it's font name. A numeric name would force the person seeking the font to find the filename before they can search for it. Without the accompanying documentation, it would be difficult to find the correct file name.