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New to large format printing - Need help with HP 1050c

drewjbx1

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hello all, I recently picked up a old HP 1050c, replaced all the printheads and cleaners. It will print graphics nicely. But when printing photos... skin tone is off, I selected high gloss as the media. Im actually using matte photo letter size paper to test before buying a roll of HP colorfast adhesive vinyl. I chose AdobeRGB and cieRGB color profiles. I also selected relative colorimetric for rendering intent setting. My photos are 300dpi.... the prints come out with a faded yellowish look. What am I doing wrong and what settings should I be using?
 

bob

It's better to have two hands than one glove.
hello all, I recently picked up a old HP 1050c, replaced all the printheads and cleaners. It will print graphics nicely. But when printing photos... skin tone is off, I selected high gloss as the media. Im actually using matte photo letter size paper to test before buying a roll of HP colorfast adhesive vinyl. I chose AdobeRGB and cieRGB color profiles. I also selected relative colorimetric for rendering intent setting. My photos are 300dpi.... the prints come out with a faded yellowish look. What am I doing wrong and what settings should I be using?

Use 'Perceptual' rendering intent for bitmaps. You'll find it far better that any flavor of 'colormetric'.

You'll no doubt receive all manner of advise from the coven of profilistas that seem to be adrift in these waters. Pay them no heed, they work far harder than they have to. Use a decent profile, all you need ins one or two, and learn what your printer does with them. Digital printing is far more art than science and rather than try to bend your printer to your will, rather try to adjust your input to suit your printer. What comes out of the printer is the truth. Once you get the hang of it, it's orders of magnitude simpler than dicking around with a bunch of profiles and produces output every bit as good.
 

Correct Color

New Member
First off...

One of the problems you run into asking questions on the internet is you really have no idea when you get answers who has the slightest clue what they're talking about.

Think of your printer as a piano, and think that anyone who tells you it doesn't need to be profiled as akin to someone who tells you your piano doesn't need to be tuned.

Yes, it's just that foolish. What comes out of the printer is not the truth. The color data in each pixel in each file you send to the printer is the truth. More truth is that whenever you send anything to a printer, some description of some printer condition made by somebody somewhere -- this description otherwise referred to as a profile -- is telling the printer exactly what dots to print. If the information in that profile does not match what your printer is actually doing, then you have to alter every single incoming pixel to try to match an unknown.

Somewhat akin to altering every note in every tune you play so as to try and make it be in tune on an out-of-tune piano.

So, though, all that said...

That's a very old printer you have there, and I've found all old HP's to be pretty unstable. And it is pretty pointless to profile an unstable printer, just as it would be to try and tune a piano that has -- say -- such a worn out pinboard that it won't stay in tune.

As cheap as newer and far superior printers are these days, I'd invest any money you might want to spend in profiling that old HP in getting a current generation machine.
 

bob

It's better to have two hands than one glove.
...What comes out of the printer is not the truth....

Really? There on your home world the truth is what you want as opposed to what actually is? Perhaps you might find some sort of mental exercise to tune your obviously deficient critical thinking skills. If that's even possible.

A buck profilista such as yourself oftent believes that they are the owners and operators of the One True Path. Twaddle. While your way is a possible way, you appear to fail to comprehend that it isn't the only way. Worse your way is a whole hell of a lot of seemingly never ending work that produces the same results as other simpler ways.

The difference being that all your way requires is an algorithm and some appliances. Other ways require actual skill.
 
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