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Notarealsignguy

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Hi All: I am a client of Robert Armerding, Sign Shop Mentor and have been for four years. He is very helpful in focusing our efforts in many areas, including listening, productivity, client acquisition, talking with difficult clients, retention and referrals, partnership disagreements and Google My Business. If you want to discuss with me directly please feel free to call me, Millers Vinyl Graphics, San Jose, Ca 408-802-1148. Mike Drysdale
The red flag is the google business listing nonsense. Now the backup is citing it too. How many spam calls does everyone get about your “google listing”
 

Gino

Premium Subscriber
I'm still listeing, but I like to talk with people in person, when I'm interested I get more from eye contact, body English and conversation.

We'll see how this goes.

Just be prepared, the s101 police are still on duty​
 

Robert Armerding

Listen Sharp
I'm still listeing, but I like to talk with people in person, when I'm interested I get more from eye contact, body English and conversation.

We'll see how this goes.

Just be prepared, the s101 police are still on duty​
Let the s101 police do their work. I have nothing to hide.
During this pandemic, I have been using Zoom. Indeed, there is nothing like in person. At least Zoom is better than nothing.
Let me ask you to check this statement. See if you agree.
For a sign maker, in any conversation, it is difficult to give the other person 100% of your attention.
Do you agree?
 

Johnny Best

Active Member
Gino has a book out about listening also.
ginosbook.jpg
 

Robert Armerding

Listen Sharp
The red flag is the google business listing nonsense. Now the backup is citing it too. How many spam calls does everyone get about your “google listing”
Most sign makers do not respond to their reviews. I think there is a wide open opportunity to market you unique qualities in your response to reviews. I am here to help you exploit that opportunity. No charge. No strings. I care and want to help.
 

Gino

Premium Subscriber
Let the s101 police do their work. I have nothing to hide.
During this pandemic, I have been using Zoom. Indeed, there is nothing like in person. At least Zoom is better than nothing.
Let me ask you to check this statement. See if you agree.
For a sign maker, in any conversation, it is difficult to give the other person 100% of your attention.
Do you agree?

Well, it pays to listen, as you are bringing to the table, but somewhere you thought I said you are hiding something. Not so.

Anyway, I'm still gonna listen for a while.​
 

Robert Armerding

Listen Sharp
Well, it pays to listen, as you are bringing to the table, but somewhere you thought I said you are hiding something. Not so.

Anyway, I'm still gonna listen for a while.​
Gino, I apologize. I was responding to your "Just be prepared, the s101 police are still on duty"
Check it. See if you agree. The sign making industry, by its very nature, demands a very high level of listening skills. Yet, most simply take it for granted. Gino, do you agree or ??
 

Notarealsignguy

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Gino, I apologize. I was responding to your "Just be prepared, the s101 police are still on duty"
Check it. See if you agree. The sign making industry, by its very nature, demands a very high level of listening skills. Yet, most simply take it for granted. Gino, do you agree or ??
Exactly what profession doesnt require good listening skills?
What did you do in the “sign shop industry?” You have glanced over that little tidbit and you seem very sketchy.
 

Texas_Signmaker

Very Active Signmaker
Exactly what profession doesnt require good listening skills?
What did you do in the “sign shop industry?” You have glanced over that little tidbit and you seem very sketchy.
He was in the listening department. Every good shop has one, they pick up the phone, listen to what your asking them a quote for and then they hang up and you never get the quote...and he did his job well.
 

Johnny Best

Active Member
He said he worked at a sign wholesale place, then his own shop then a salesman at mom and pop place and then help start a national sign shop. Weren’t you listening?
 

Robert Armerding

Listen Sharp
Exactly what profession doesnt require good listening skills?
What did you do in the “sign shop industry?” You have glanced over that little tidbit and you seem very sketchy.
Over 40 years in the sign making industry. I started with my own one man shop. A sign I made 35 years ago is still standing at a bandstand in Pleasanton, CA. Then I was outside sales for a mom and pop sign shop. Then I help launch a national shop called "Street Scenes Banner Company." When the Oakland A's won a World Series, I sold the huge banners that went up and down the main street to the coliseum. And finally, many years with Product Sign Supplies in San Jose, CA. I was the purchasing manager for both stores. Every day, I enjoyed productive conversations with leading sign makers. Then Glantz bought the company and I retired. Well, semi-retired. Check with Davey Glantz. Does that even come close to answering your concern? If not, I can try again.
 

Notarealsignguy

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Over 40 years in the sign making industry. I started with my own one man shop. A sign I made 35 years ago is still standing at a bandstand in Pleasanton, CA. Then I was outside sales for a mom and pop sign shop. Then I help launch a national shop called "Street Scenes Banner Company." When the Oakland A's won a World Series, I sold the huge banners that went up and down the main street to the coliseum. And finally, many years with Product Sign Supplies in San Jose, CA. I was the purchasing manager for both stores. Every day, I enjoyed productive conversations with leading sign makers. Then Glantz bought the company and I retired. Well, semi-retired. Check with Davey Glantz. Does that even come close to answering your concern? If not, I can try again.
So why wont you offer open advice here for everyone? I dont get the angle of the one on one signup.
 

Robert Armerding

Listen Sharp
So why wont you offer open advice here for everyone? I dont get the angle of the one on one signup.
Watch for my new thread tomorrow morning. The one on one angle is simply because everyone's situation is different. One on one is far more productive, 1% at at time. Yet, I do plan to post threads regularly. So, if that is all you look for, you will get it.
 

Texas_Signmaker

Very Active Signmaker
Sign Shop Mentor AKA "Free Online Checkup"

https://sites.google.com/view/signshopwriter/home
Searched the address and it comes up with some apartment that houses a business called "Free Online Checkup" https://www.google.com/search?q=846...rome.0.69i59.103j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 For a guy that is trying to sell you on Google listings and reviews, he only has a 3.5 star rating.

More pages with him just trying to pitch Google Listings: https://robert-armerding-company.business.site/
He's a "Yelp Expert": http://www.worldwidebranding.com/Robert-Armerding
He bought a membership w/ CSA.. same "pitch" on there he makes here: https://www.calsign.org/introducing-a-seasoned-industry-coach/

Business Info: http://www.buzzfile.com/business/Robert-Armerding-Co-408-833-9920


Maybe you can buy someone a gift card to get some advise from him: https://www.giftly.com/gift-card/robert-armerding-company-san-jose-2
 

Gino

Premium Subscriber
Exactly what profession doesnt require good listening skills?
What did you do in the “sign shop industry?” You have glanced over that little tidbit and you seem very sketchy.

Politicians, parents, children, people at the bar, people at a ball game or any other sports event, geese, chess match, work, wives and husbands, 47 different gender groups and too many others to mention.
 

Johnny Best

Active Member
Last time the Oakland Athletics won a World Series was in 1989. Some of the people on here were not even born yet
 

Robert Armerding

Listen Sharp
Sign Shop Mentor AKA "Free Online Checkup"

https://sites.google.com/view/signshopwriter/home
Searched the address and it comes up with some apartment that houses a business called "Free Online Checkup" https://www.google.com/search?q=846+Emory+St+#11+San+Jose,+CA+95126-1820&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS808US808&oq=846+Emory+St+#11+San+Jose,+CA+95126-1820&aqs=chrome.0.69i59.103j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 For a guy that is trying to sell you on Google listings and reviews, he only has a 3.5 star rating.

More pages with him just trying to pitch Google Listings: https://robert-armerding-company.business.site/
He's a "Yelp Expert": http://www.worldwidebranding.com/Robert-Armerding
He bought a membership w/ CSA.. same "pitch" on there he makes here: https://www.calsign.org/introducing-a-seasoned-industry-coach/

Business Info: http://www.buzzfile.com/business/Robert-Armerding-Co-408-833-9920


Maybe you can buy someone a gift card to get some advise from him: https://www.giftly.com/gift-card/robert-armerding-company-san-jose-2
Wow, Thank you for all of your research. I was not aware of two of those items. Indeed, I took action on them. Thanks again. Now, on Google My Business. Google could shut that down with one click of a button. My approach is to say let’s exploit GMB while it is available. There is so much that can be done and very few sign makers take advantage of it. Now, on Google reviews, or any reviews, I see it as an opportunity to market the uniqueness of your shop. You can do that in how you respond to your reviews. It is a brand new marketing tool and very few take advantage of it. It is a powerful way to set your sign shop apart from all the others on the Google list, to make your shop more attractive. My threads will soon start explaining all of this. Well, again, thanks for your research.
 

Billct2

Active Member
"So why wont you offer open advice here for everyone? I dont get the angle of the one on one signup."
Because the first consultation is free and is spent convincing you to sign up for more that aren't free.
 
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