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Discussion in 'New Member Introductions' started by Wallgraphics1, Mar 19, 2013.

  1. Wallgraphics1

    Wallgraphics1 New Member

    Mar 19, 2013
    Hi everyone so I’m kind of new to this forum but I have been using it as a resource for studying a new operation that I wish to add to my business for sometime. I have learned a ton from this form and now I’m looking for some advice on my business plan.

    So I am entrepreneur at heart but went to school and double majored in graphic design and Economics. I’ve been researching this new business for sometime what the best method for production and now I’m looking for your help. I want to produce wall graphics on demand from my online website and through my sales channels I’m not interested in becoming a full own Sing Maker because I know that is too big of a learning curve to undergo.

    So I talked to a number of sign supplier about what I will need to get started. As far machinery I have been looking at Rolland Pro4 XR-640 this is the newest the suppliers have told me this is newest and best machine out there. One of the suppliers I have talked to a lot and has really helped me was recommending a refurbished VP-540 with a warranty for 6 months on parts and labor. He was saying that there wasn’t that big of a difference in quality of two printers and biggest difference would be in print speeds. So I was wondering if this was true or he was just trying to sell me the refurbished.

    As far as media goes I have looked at lots and really am leaning towards Phototex because I think this product seems to have the best durability. Also not being an experienced printer I am worried with some of vinyl materials about curling which has occurred on some samples I have printed on. Other materials I have considered are Avery MPI 2611 ad Graphtex. So if anyone has any opinion on media it would greatly appreciated.

    Options 2 I have looked at contracting out the printing to a company that focus on printing. This is a real appealing option to me because it would take the whole printing operation out of the business. So in my research the best pricing I was giving was between $3 and $4 a square foot for various Medias. I was wondering if these were fair prices.

    All my graphic work has already been made with vectors and cutlines and I’m experienced on that side of business. So the biggest question I would have if I’m really motivated to learn do you think I’m better off producing myself or outsourcing. All opinions and advice would be greatly appreciated.
  2. Sign Up Graphics

    Sign Up Graphics Very Active Member

    Jan 8, 2007
    Sign Up Graphics

    Welcome from Skokie, IL :thumb:
  3. Blaney

    Blaney Member

    Nov 30, 2008
    Springfield Illinois
    Another welcome from Illinois.
  4. Wallgraphics1

    Wallgraphics1 New Member

    Mar 19, 2013
    Thanks Illinois People
  5. The Big Squeegee

    The Big Squeegee Major Contributor

    Oct 10, 2005
    Lawton, OK, USA
    Welcome from OK

    It is best to outsource your printing until you have enough volume to keep a printer busy every day. Otherwise, you will be buying into a maintenance nightmare with a printer. They are made to be used.
  6. Gino

    Gino Premium Subscriber

    Jun 7, 2006
    Welcome from PA...................
  7. JBusch260

    JBusch260 Active Member

    Jan 22, 2013
    Greetings from IN!
  8. Caitlin

    Caitlin Member

    Jan 4, 2013
    Welcome from Sk, Canada!
  9. J Hill Designs

    J Hill Designs Major Contributor

    Sep 24, 2004
    welcome from cali :thumb:
  10. Wallgraphics1

    Wallgraphics1 New Member

    Mar 19, 2013
    Thanks everyone!
  11. ChicagoGraphics

    ChicagoGraphics Major Contributor

    Feb 27, 2007
    Where in Chicago you located?
  12. P Wagner

    P Wagner Very Active Member

    Aug 16, 2006
    San Diego
    I would look into initially outsourcing your print work, until the volume of work justifies bringing it in-house.

    This approach will also allow you to learn about the advantages and limitations of the various ink technologies that are used in the digital wall coverings market, including solvent and latex inks, and let you make the correct choice when the time is right.
  13. Welcome From VA
  14. Wallgraphics1

    Wallgraphics1 New Member

    Mar 19, 2013

    I'm currently located in loop on wabash by madison street. I have office access to some office spaces in the burbs if I was going to need to run print operations. What about you Chicago?
  15. Red Ball

    Red Ball Very Active Member

    Aug 20, 2008
    Welcome from the Kingdom of Texas!

    Outsource your printing to start.
  16. Wallgraphics1

    Wallgraphics1 New Member

    Mar 19, 2013
    Any suggestions on protecting intellectual property behind idea? What pricing you think would be fair for outsourcing?
  17. Brandon_PDTHawaii

    Brandon_PDTHawaii New Member

    Mar 20, 2013
    Hey Wallgraphics1

    I'm a total newbie too on this forum but I have had lots of experience with PhotoTex. I have to tell you I love it for what it is made for, easy install and removable fabric material. It's almost like comparing apples to oranges. Maybe someone with more experience with the Avery can chime in here if I'm wrong, since I don't have much experience with this particular vinyl from Avery. When you think of PhotoTex literally think of a post-it-note made from fabric. Avery MPI 2611 ad Graphtex is a 6 mil calendared vinyl made specifically for wall graphics. I've used PhotoTex here on multiple occasions for trade show booths, temporary graphics on unusual substrates, even Wallpaper. Right now I'm printing a 10x10 full top to bottom PhotoTex wallpaper to cover a clients trade show booth because his panels have that carpet kind of texture. I've used it on a couple machines now (arizona 550gt, epson GS6000, HP5000 DesignJet) with custom profiles and have had no complaints. It can be installed on many types of surfaces and removed and installed again and again, depending on the substrate of course. I even use it a lot on banners where the main banner on scrim has a section of PhotoTex that is always changed for new promotions. I've also cut it into many different shapes with our zund, summa, and by hand. Since we first heard of the PhotoTex we ordered some rolls and tried it and really got it out there and used it for many clients.

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