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Okay, I think I have a winner here..................................................................................

Signarama Jockey

New Member
I worked for the local school board a long time ago...
Could this be the reason why this topic seems to agitate you so much?

...maybe it would be a good idea to listen to what the people who have devoted their careers to schooling, went to college for education, went on to get Masters and Phd's in their field or in child development, the business minds behind education on the administrative side, the federal dept of education and so on. They ALL say funding yet you people conveniently ignore this and spout off stats with no discussion on causality.
You should consider learning advanced statistics and analysis before you start preaching about them as if they are the gospel because it clearly shows your lack of grasp of the subject matter.
Okay, just so I have this straight, I'm only allowed to have opinions on the sign business. People like you and me can't weigh in on wars or medicine or government policies, because we aren't specialists. We aren't historians, so we can't talk about history, we aren't authors, so we can't comment on books, and since we don't direct movies, it would be impropare for us to have an opinion about movies. We should all just stay in our lanes, keep our heads down and shut up. Is that right?

Well, let me hep you out here. You and I both have the right to have any opinion we choose and to voice it. Your "only the experts can have a valid opinion on this issue" is what is known as the Argument from Authority logical fallacy. I dismiss it out of hand. I can have and say my opinion and you can't stop me #sorrynotsorry.
 

Gino

Premium Subscriber
Could this be the reason why this topic seems to agitate you so much?


Okay, just so I have this straight, I'm only allowed to have opinions on the sign business. People like you and me can't weigh in on wars or medicine or government policies, because we aren't specialists. We aren't historians, so we can't talk about history, we aren't authors, so we can't comment on books, and since we don't direct movies, it would be impropare for us to have an opinion about movies. We should all just stay in our lanes, keep our heads down and shut up. Is that right?

Well, let me hep you out here. You and I both have the right to have any opinion we choose and to voice it. Your "only the experts can have a valid opinion on this issue" is what is known as the Argument from Authority logical fallacy. I dismiss it out of hand. I can have and say my opinion and you can't stop me #sorrynotsorry.
I think I could go to sleep better tonight, if you two would kiss and makeup....... I know that for a fact, jack.

I do see in this last episode, your spelling and grammar seemed to go backwards. Seems maybe you were deprived of some teachings about 3rd to 9th grade. Was it the teachers fault or didn't you pay attention and not do your homework in certain classes ??

Just remember you guys... opinions are like your a$$holes..... everyone's got one.
 

Notarealsignguy

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Could this be the reason why this topic seems to agitate you so much?


Okay, just so I have this straight, I'm only allowed to have opinions on the sign business. People like you and me can't weigh in on wars or medicine or government policies, because we aren't specialists. We aren't historians, so we can't talk about history, we aren't authors, so we can't comment on books, and since we don't direct movies, it would be impropare for us to have an opinion about movies. We should all just stay in our lanes, keep our heads down and shut up. Is that right?

Well, let me hep you out here. You and I both have the right to have any opinion we choose and to voice it. Your "only the experts can have a valid opinion on this issue" is what is known as the Argument from Authority logical fallacy. I dismiss it out of hand. I can have and say my opinion and you can't stop me #sorrynotsorry.
No, dumb people masquerading as smart agitate me. Sorrynotsorry but opinions aren't facts and yes people that can only regurgitate nonsense that they hear should stay in their lane. This here is a failing of the school system because back when I went, the dumbasses were in one class and the smart kids were in another, both knew their roles and owned it. Nowadays they are all thrown together so the stupid asses don't get that very important lesson on this hierarchy in society.
 

Notarealsignguy

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The one thing that I have noticed with this back and forth banter is that you are not able to follow along with an actual debate because as soon as you are asked a question which would require some out of the box thinking to continue on, you instead choose to get defensive and deflect. This is because you have no deep thought into this, you are only able to repeat what you have heard so in light of something that may disprove or invalidate your stance, you just try harder to make it fit. Smart people listen and never consider anything as the end all be all, they thrive on seeing things from multiple angles.
 

Gino

Premium Subscriber
Gino, do we have a winner yet?
Yes, this fact was determined in the OP 1st post, I believe. I AM. All this other silly baggage just goes along for the ride. Has nothing to do with the original statements. I like participation, both good and bad, but once it goes overboard and has nothing to do with anything, ya can puff your chest out so far and if you keep bringing the same information back to the conversation over and over and over again...... go back to bed.

Keeping on track with the recent squabbles, when you're a teacher, ya need to get through to your students... good or bad alike. If ya can't do it one way, ya try another approach and then another until a light goes off. These kids today have become statistics and there's nothing personal about it anymore. Again, ya can't let the good ones spoil and rot while you spend hours with lil' billy. So, ya hafta put them into groups and teach accordingly. This new way of teaching was based upon numbers and averages and creating a larger split between the good, average and poor students. It ain't working, but noone will admit that and they keep trying the same crap over and over and coming up worse then before. Isn't that somehow related to the theory of madness of expecting different results ??

Yes, something needs to be done, but they need some smart people in there trying to figure this out. Not people representing all religions, races, poor and/or rich and nationalities so it's all fair. That is pure B/S.

They wanna do away with huge parts of history because it could scar a child. They want you to forget how civilizations came about. They wanna rewrite history. Children will only learn what the government deems necessary. In this case, we're bound to start making the same mistakes over....... and it's already happening, because of lies.
 

Notarealsignguy

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You always have to watch for people that have an agenda, they can be dangerous. The tactic is to create a problem or exaggerate an existing problem and then convince people that they, and only them, have the solution. The convincing is easy but the "solution" sucks and does not allow for rational decision making. It's strictly emotional but it's the only way around the hard work and education that is typically required to be in this sort of decision making role.
 

Signarama Jockey

New Member
I don't believe that I've been rude to anyone during this discussion, but it seems like a couple of you are taking this disagreement personally.

I am happy to move on and discuss other things. No hard feelings.
 

Gino

Premium Subscriber
I don't believe that I've been rude to anyone during this discussion, but it seems like a couple of you are taking this disagreement personally.

I am happy to move on and discuss other things. No hard feelings.


I think so, too. Time to stick a fork in it. It's done. Also, I don't know what you are referring to about being rude ?? Where is it or are they ??
 

Notarealsignguy

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I don't take anything personally from anyone that I don't know, this is just banter. If you are seeing rude then you must have missed the parts where you were being passive aggressive. Either way it's all good on my side
 

Gino

Premium Subscriber
I don't believe that I've been rude to anyone during this discussion, but it seems like a couple of you are taking this disagreement personally.

I am happy to move on and discuss other things. No hard feelings.

What in the world are you doing ?? You say something, then deny it. Ya wanna stick a fork in this, then let's do it, but please for my sake, stop this stupid nonsense. Right now, I do not have the patience for dumbness, whether it's in the schools or on this forum. Nothing to do with debating or whatever you're gonna name it next, just stop this foolishness.
 

Signarama Jockey

New Member
I don't believe that I've been rude to anyone during this discussion, but it seems like a couple of you are taking this disagreement personally.

I am happy to move on and discuss other things. No hard feelings.
I'm going to move on with my life, guys. Feel free to have the last word. Be well.
 

Boudica

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I'm down, lets go. I want to see steam come out of Gino's ears
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