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Omega 4.0 Smart Edit issues....Grrrr....
- Thread starter threeputt
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Fred Weiss
Merchant Member
My first experience was like yours. I hated it. Then I calmed down and paid attention to what it was giving me and now I love it. The trick is to pick the right smart edit for what you want to change.
threeputt
New Member
Hi Fred,
Ok...I'm calmed down, been reading in the help menu, but still notice that when you want to de-select only portions of a group, it's a no-go. Or physically move certain shapes or blocks of lettering around, it automatically re-applies the smart edit items you've disabled moments before.
Just moving the text block will trigger this.
I guess I'm not the expert I thought I was. For 25 years I've been with Gerber and bought all of their upgrades. This one, hah! Don't see the big benefit in it.....................yet.
Are we the only two users of 4.0 on the forum?
Ok...I'm calmed down, been reading in the help menu, but still notice that when you want to de-select only portions of a group, it's a no-go. Or physically move certain shapes or blocks of lettering around, it automatically re-applies the smart edit items you've disabled moments before.
Just moving the text block will trigger this.
I guess I'm not the expert I thought I was. For 25 years I've been with Gerber and bought all of their upgrades. This one, hah! Don't see the big benefit in it.....................yet.
Are we the only two users of 4.0 on the forum?
Fred Weiss
Merchant Member
I don't have 4.0 ... only up to 3.0. But I have one job that calls for serial numbers where I have to make sets of four of the same number in order and then advance to the next in columns of 32 labels. It has three smart edits and I can go in to set it up for a different serial number and change a run of 1000 sets in about a minute using the ReAction feature. So I've found it to be very helpful.
OTOH, I have learned the hard way long before they came along with ReAction to finalize my size and position before using any Smart Edit feature.
OTOH, I have learned the hard way long before they came along with ReAction to finalize my size and position before using any Smart Edit feature.
threeputt
New Member
Dana Goodale
New Member
Hi Three Putt,
In addition to Brian's suggestion:
1. If you hold down CTRL when selecting, this will allow you to break groups and combines when selecting.
THEN, continue to hold down the CTRL key when you move these objects and you will have a copy of the objects WITHOUT the smart edit. You can then edit the graphics to your hearts content on the copies without the underlying regeneration.
2.
You can also select an entire graphic (or ReAction "tree") or part of a graphic, then copy and paste, then use EDIT>Convert to Objects on the pasted version. This will keep the original graphic as "smart-editable" but allow you to edit the other copy without all the underlying regeneration.
3.
FYI, if You select an ENTIRE graphic (ie. text+outline + shadow), then copy and paste and do NOT convert to objects, the second pasted result will be fully smart editable.
4.
Generally, 3.0 and 4.0 regeneration are similar to previous versions but they sometimes occur automatically when TOOLS>Options>General is set to automatic Regeneration (As you have discovered!). This spontaneous regeneration still may occur but you can use the above techniques to help with this.
If possible:
-Try to avoid DELETING outlines and shadows (avoid Edit>Delete) as they will return spontaneously. Instead, double click on a graphic and turn OFF outlines and shadows in the ReAction tree or in the dialog boxes.
-Try to avoid breaking groups and combines and editing parts of groups and combines as this will cause weird regeneration.
It takes a slight amount of extra time to do these two extra steps but will make your overall reaction experience smoother and more productive.
There are some reAction videos in the OMEGA 3.0 section of the Gerber website, and in the MTSSandbox if you wish to peruse.
THANKS!
Dana
In addition to Brian's suggestion:
1. If you hold down CTRL when selecting, this will allow you to break groups and combines when selecting.
THEN, continue to hold down the CTRL key when you move these objects and you will have a copy of the objects WITHOUT the smart edit. You can then edit the graphics to your hearts content on the copies without the underlying regeneration.
2.
You can also select an entire graphic (or ReAction "tree") or part of a graphic, then copy and paste, then use EDIT>Convert to Objects on the pasted version. This will keep the original graphic as "smart-editable" but allow you to edit the other copy without all the underlying regeneration.
3.
FYI, if You select an ENTIRE graphic (ie. text+outline + shadow), then copy and paste and do NOT convert to objects, the second pasted result will be fully smart editable.
4.
Generally, 3.0 and 4.0 regeneration are similar to previous versions but they sometimes occur automatically when TOOLS>Options>General is set to automatic Regeneration (As you have discovered!). This spontaneous regeneration still may occur but you can use the above techniques to help with this.
If possible:
-Try to avoid DELETING outlines and shadows (avoid Edit>Delete) as they will return spontaneously. Instead, double click on a graphic and turn OFF outlines and shadows in the ReAction tree or in the dialog boxes.
-Try to avoid breaking groups and combines and editing parts of groups and combines as this will cause weird regeneration.
It takes a slight amount of extra time to do these two extra steps but will make your overall reaction experience smoother and more productive.
There are some reAction videos in the OMEGA 3.0 section of the Gerber website, and in the MTSSandbox if you wish to peruse.
THANKS!
Dana