Onyx Production House -- Banner Marks?

[Stephenedwardgraphic]

Running Onyx Production House 11

Is there a way to add grommet marks and trim marks for hemming to a banner file in the RIP. The Onyx Sign and Banner Illustrator plugin no longer works -- looking for a quick, automated way to do this.

 

[dypinc]

Onyx being a lower end RIP is not that advanced to do this.

 

[Jester1167]

If your using an older version of Corel for design there is a plug-in at macromonster.com for doing this pre-production quickly.

 

[Hotspur]

Onyx being a lower end RIP is not that advanced to do this.

Quite the opposite - it's the low-end rips that spend a lot of R&D time on pretty GUI's and this type of functionality (that can easily be done in application software like Corel or Illustrator) whilst ignoring the more important (and difficult) things that rips are supposed to do.

Just one example - I am the first in my country to have an HP FB750 UV printer. Three weeks before the printer arrived I was able to download not only the completed Onyx driver for it but just under 1GB of profiles for it too - that's the kind of thing that really separates a top-end rip like Onyx from the others not easy stuff like grommet marks.

And just incase you really need this in a rip and not in the app...Onyx have put it in V12 available in a month or two.

I suggest potential purchasers should review their priorities carefully when it comes to selecting a rip.

 

[FrankW]

Quite the opposite - it's the low-end rips that spend a lot of R&D time on pretty GUI's and this type of functionality (that can easily be done in application software like Corel or Illustrator) whilst ignoring the more important (and difficult) things that rips are supposed to do.

Onyx have spent R&D-Time for that Sign & Banner-Plugin . And after they do not support it anymore, perhaps there will be an other solution in the future, eventually integrated in the RIP-Software itself (as lots of other RIP-software too) ... there are requests of customers for such a functionality to add grommet marks without opening single files in graphics software.

Just one example - I am the first in my country to have an HP FB750 UV printer. Three weeks before the printer arrived I was able to download not only the completed Onyx driver for it but just under 1GB of profiles for it too - that's the kind of thing that really separates a top-end rip like Onyx from the others not easy stuff like grommet marks.

Is the printer up and running at your location? Have you tested that driver until now?

Driving a FB750 is not so different to driving a FB700, but there are a few modifications with print modes. This could lead to trouble with the first version of a new driver.

Very often when a new model which is based on an old one is released profiles are just converted from the old machines. And even if Onyx regularly delivers a lot of profiles, standard profiles are only second choice.

 

[Hotspur]

No they bought in a plug-in guy who was a specialist in this area they didn't use existing r&ad people on it.
As I said Onyx will have this in V12 soon - my point was that the lack of such a feature currently does not make Onyx a low end rip as there are other more important criteria.
Re the 750 yes I've run it plenty and it is a marked improvement - no issues with the driver to report.
i agree custom profiles are always superior but the point is they have put so much effort in at such an early stage - something which separates Onyx from most other rips.
They have even bothered to write a separate library of profiles designed to help you match output to the previous 700 printer which is a crazy level of thoroughness in my opinion.

 

[FrankW]

No they bought in a plug-in guy who was a specialist in this area they didn't use existing r&ad people on it.

They could do that too with grommets . But I know too that grommets will be in V12 .

As I said Onyx will have this in V12 soon - my point was that the lack of such a feature currently does not make Onyx a low end rip as there are other more important criteria.

I agree that one feature like grommets don't make a RIP a low end RIP, but which features are important for you depends on your priorities. I work at a dealer, and do work with several RIP-Softwares ... every RIP have it's advantages and disadvantages, I hate Onyx for some things, and love it for other things.

i agree custom profiles are always superior but the point is they have put so much effort in at such an early stage - something which separates Onyx from most other rips.

Yes. But it could be that the profiles are converted only from the FB500/FB700. How do the printer works with the new Photo Print Modes? We currently still have a FB500 only in our showroom.

 

[Hotspur]

No they are new profiles - there are new folders for backlit profiles, and even more for special profiles to allow matching with a 500 or 700.

Also both photo modes have double strike to allow better saturation and the next two modes have a new head speed - all of which has required new profiles.

Pretty impressive results so far I'm very pleased.

Photo mode is a new favorite of mine - high saturation and minimal banding at 10sqm/h. Also Indoor signage plus excellent at 15sqm/h - really decent quality and gamut without having to put up with 5sqm/h from the old MaxDPI mode.