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Paint specs to give to customer for murals

Discussion in 'Product and Supplier Referrals' started by bigben, Sep 10, 2019.

  1. bigben

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    We do tons of murals and vinyls on painted drywall. I normally use the 3M paint test when I do my survey, but some customers are asking me for the detailed paint requirement. The only informations I've got from vinyl manufacturers is a ''contractor paint'' and avoid any ''easy cleaning'' agent or VOC. This is very vague.

    Does anyone have a document with the specifications required for the paint and/or a particular paint/sealer to use?

    Ideally, I would like to give my customer a document that tell them what to do and choose for their paint.

    Thanks.
     
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  2. Dan360

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    http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/346473O/5-37-application-to-walls.pdf

    Page 8 has 3M recommendations. Basically boils down to they recommend Kilz brand primer and a semi-gloss paint with no anti graffiti additives.

    "Laboratory tests using Pittsburgh Paints and SherwinWilliams Paints have provided acceptable film adhesion and removability characteristics on sound surfaces"
     
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  3. bigben

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    I had this one. Actually, my 3m rep recommend the sherwin-williams proclassic but he could not tell me why. Someone else recommended a sealer like gardz made by zinsser.
     
  4. Dan360

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    I had a similar conversation with our rep, he basically pointed me to that document and said there really are no guarantees. So whenever a customer asks us for recommendations, we tell them basically the same thing and always do a wall test. The best results I've had consistently was avoiding paint all together and applying directly to primer.
     
  5. bigben

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    In my case, I had failure with install on primer directly. All manufacturers don't recommend to apply on primer direct.
     
  6. Dan360

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    Maybe it was a sealer, I'll have to ask the guys next time. These are usually for new restaurants opening up and it looks like primer based on where they stopped painting but I could be wrong.
     
  7. bigben

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    for restaurants, they normally use a sealer effectively.
     
  8. Zendavor Signs

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    Just recommend they coat the wall with Gardz sealer. Then it doesn't matter what kind of paint they use.
     
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