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Precision Board

Discussion in 'CNC Routing & Laser Cutting' started by Jen Goodwin, May 27, 2004.

  1. Jen Goodwin

    Jen Goodwin Active Member

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    Has anyone used this? What do you use to paint it with? How many steps with fillers etc. is required? What else should I know, what else should I be asking? :) I am finishing the sign but my supplier of the PB is routering it. I'm scared, lol.
    :thankyou:
     
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  2. dccas

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    Precision board is HDU, similiar to Sign Foam, it is much dustier
    than Sign Foam, and I've heard it doesn't hold up as well as
    sign foam does outdoors....very nice to carve, routing shouldn't be
    a problem...
    It comes in different densities, and thicknesses, and is less
    expensive than sign foam...

    Treat it as you would MDO, sand, prime, and I would use
    all oil based paints and I shot paint for letters (my own
    preference)...I would also put at least two coats of
    paint on the surface because it is pourous ...
     
  3. Jen Goodwin

    Jen Goodwin Active Member

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    Thanks!!
    Does this mean that I shouldn't have to use the fillers etc.? Just sand, clean prime and paint?
     
  4. dccas

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    what do you mean by fillers? HDU dents and chips, pebbles from transporting
    puts holes (dents) into it....I fill those with spackle paste, just have to be
    careful, cause when you paint if the spackle isn't properly primed and smoothed over well, you will see the spackle (shows up shiny), ...

    depending on size of spackle, I sometimes prime first, then spackle, sand, prime with BIN, then start putting on final coats, and of course, the more
    you paint, the less you'll see of the spackle...

    maybe Precision Board is more porous than Sign Foam, hence the fillers, but if I was doing it, I wouldn't use any fillers unless it was absolutey necessary
     
  5. ernie

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    HDU is very easy to paint, just make sure to blow all the dust off the surface with an airgun. You don't have to use a primer for adhesion but we normally do just to get a smooth surface. You will find that HDU is compatible with any of the paints you normally use. We use oneshot with hardener over signfoam primer.

    ernie
     
  6. Jen Goodwin

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    This is what I found on their website:
    FSC-88 Primer/Filler - solvent based. Brush/Roll/Spray Grade.
    FSC-88 WB Primer/Filler - water based. Brush/Roll/Spray Grade.
    FSC-360 WB Crack Filling and Repair Material - water based. Putty Knife Grade.
    TSF-45 Texturing coating that stays flexible - water based. Great for adding wood grain, stucco, etc.
    PB Bond-240 Urethane Adhesive - one part.
    PB Fast Set Urethane Adhesive - one part, 30 min cure
    EP-75 Epoxy Adhesive and Potting Maerial - two part.
    PB Resin - clear coat for creating a fast ultra smooth surface. No Priming or sanding required.
    Also PB Hardcoat.

    I was unaware that I had to get other products, I just thought I could sand, prime and paint...then I found all these other products and I got a little worried that I didn't know enough about the material. This is an expensive little sign for a 'great potential' new customer, I don't want it to fail on me because I missed an important step.
     
  7. dccas

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    Jen,
    Just sand, blow off the residue, prime and paint..
    you need not use fillers UNLESS you have a major
    flaw in the substrate...the epoxy is for cluing piece to
    piece (ie: you may need a 60" x 120" substrate and
    rather than buying a 60" x 120" - rather pricey, you
    would clue, and if you do clue, you Gorilla Glue)..

    anyways,
    sand well after the primer and all additional coats..
     
  8. Jen Goodwin

    Jen Goodwin Active Member

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    Awesome, I am no longer scared :cool1: I am actually looking forward to this now. Thank You!!
     
  9. MAB SIGNS

    MAB SIGNS Very Active Member

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    I would still use FSC-88 its a great product as a primer filler. Precision board will have more pitted areas because it has more air bubbles than signfoam during manufacturing, so I'm told. Good reason to use FSC-88 first. Let us see the end result!

    Mark
     
  10. Jen Goodwin

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    I guess I am not getting it. Someone else gave her a price of $375 for a two sided 44" x 16" sign, Routered, Painted 3 colors.
    :help:
    Does that even make sense?
     
  11. Dennis Raap

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    Jen,
    That sounds to low to me lets see what other people have to say. I have only done a few of these but they are time consuming. :help:
     
  12. OldPaint

    OldPaint Major Contributor

    it musta been that "bean" family that gave the low price!!!!!
     
  13. dccas

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    Jen,
    I must've missed the post in ref; price...we're still talking HDU?
    I see $375 for a 44 x 16...2 sided..
    What density, what thickness?
     
  14. Jen Goodwin

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    I'm not entirely sure what they were planning to use exactly, but I was told that it was on 4" High Density Urethane; although it looked like 2" to me. I quoted it on 2", 18# Density Precision Board and needless to say, my price was much higher than that. Oh well, can't win them all I guess! Thanks for helping me out with all the info though, I appreciate it and I'll store it away for future use :)
    :thankyou:
     
  15. dccas

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    I'm glad you bid more than $375.
    HDU is labor intensive and bid should be in the range
    of 80 to 110 dollars sq foot, and 2nd side is 70% of first side..
     
  16. Jen Goodwin

    Jen Goodwin Active Member

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    That's more like it. That is more in line with what I quoted and I was still cheaper than that. I was worried when I gave her the quote that I would be ridiculously low - I didn't want that; I contemplated the low price before I sent it...but when she told me what she paid for the existing sign I was shocked - I still am. They must really want to do that sign! (it IS for a good company...maybe they factored that in and I am missing the boat)
     
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