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printer/cutter what should i choose

Discussion in 'Labels and Decals' started by CHP Supply, Apr 14, 2018 at 4:23 PM.

  1. CHP Supply

    CHP Supply New Member

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    Hello everyone
    we are a small medium manufacturer of industrial product ( pressure washer and industrial vacuum ), all of goods are made in steel and then powder coated, we outsource our sticker that we used, but i am looking to buy a printer cutter to do it in house.

    first its not about money issue, but to be self-sufficient at the end, that move if i do it will cost me far more than continuing doing what we do. we already have in house design departement, we have the space i still have a room 20 x 30 that i could use for that

    question, do i should buy a bigger machine than what i need ( i am looking for a roland SG-300 ) , i dont know the use since i never own one, i wanted to use it only for us. i have no plan to print for other, but sometime when you have the equipment opportunity knock at the door

    i read on other post latex printer might be more adequated for my needs but do their media will work with powder painted surface

    i know nothing about printing, feel free to propose something i might looking the wrong side

    sorry for my typo i am a french frog canadian :)

    regards
     
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  2. ChicagoGraphics

    ChicagoGraphics Major Contributor

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    You probably cheaper off just out sourcing your decals as you are now then owning your own printer.
     
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  3. equippaint

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    Youre not going to save anything making your own. Theres more to it than just owning the printer.
    This is like buying a $10k zero turn mower to save that $20 the kid charges you to cut your lawn every week. You'll break even in 10 years (maybe 30 in canada) and throw away all your time you spent doing the job when you could have been doing sales or something else that actually grows your business.
     
  4. Ian Stewart-Koster

    Ian Stewart-Koster Active Member

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    As above...
    Profits start to occur after 1000s of hours of use- not counting the learning curve...
    We outsourced our printing for 18 years, before getting our own printer- and despite having a printer, we still outsource some printing...
     
  5. CHP Supply

    CHP Supply New Member

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    as i said , i am not looking to save money i know that printer will cost far more than outsource my sticker, i am looking to be self suficient, we have more than 75 models that we produce, keeping all sticker is real headache since they all small batch and we change sticker every year or so

    i dont say i will go that way , but speaking with people who know that field will help me
     
  6. The Raven

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    Why don’t you check Summa DC5-SX? It’s the best thermal printer cutter combination out there and unlike inkjets it doesn’t need constant use, servicing and cleanups to keep the heads from clogging. Very low power unit, no ventilation needed because no harmful outgassing, and you don’t need lamination to get 5 years outdoor performance. Spot colors are available, so are metallics and chrome/gold, and I think it would be a better choice for your particular need. It’s cutting performance is better than any brand as well.

    You can get really nice used ones, and performance-wise a DC4 is the same with the DC5 series. The difference is network connection availability of the 5 series vs UsB only 4 series, color touch screen vs B&W and a 7x faster processor which is really not necessary, especially if you are printing vector graphics. Airmark sells them, and the customer support is awesome too.

    With thermal printing, you can also print on colored plotter vinyl which would give you a whole new set of options.

    They come in 30” and 54” sizes. 30” can hold 5 rolls of ribbons, 54” can hold 8 at a time. Unless you want to print large graphics or a lot of different spot colors in a single batch, the smaller SX should work better doing decals. Easier to deal and store the shorter roll media too.
     
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  7. CHP Supply

    CHP Supply New Member

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    I did look for that printer , but on summa web site their printer are invisible unless I am not on the right on
     
  8. equippaint

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    For what you are doing, this was a pretty good suggestion by raven. Print costs are higher than a latex or solvent but you wont need to laminate. You can do some cool stuff with them too.
    Id go with a 30" for what youre looking to do. We make a lot of equipment decals and never need over 30" material for them even though we have a 54" printer.
     
  9. The Raven

    The Raven New Member

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    “Why did DC5 disappear from your website?” was my first question at Sign Expo in Orlando and the Summa guys pointed me the way to Airmark’s stand. DC5 is handled by Airmark in North America. Check their website instead.
     
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