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Printing a color instead of nothing

Discussion in 'Mutoh' started by Designer Wraps, Sep 2, 2009.

  1. Designer Wraps

    Designer Wraps Member

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    I've had this problem for a while and have just dealt with it after going through support with no avail (though I wasn't very persistent).

    Anyway, now that I'm printing more banners than ever with a ton of WHITE SPACE in between logos, I'm tired of running through 440's in 4 days.

    Can anyone tell me or has this happened to anyone that has fixed this issue?

    Instead of skipping ahead and not printing anything, it's printing a slight cream/yellowish color.

    It doesn't matter which profile/material I use - and I do use the correct ones for each material - it always does this.

    Help if you can.

    Thanks!
     
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  2. dbenec

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    our epsons will do that if the simulation profile is turned on - like it's printing the paper color - which you would want to turn off in your case.

    not sure where you would do that in your setup though.
     
  3. Designer Wraps

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    That makes sense, but looking in my PM, Simulation is set to "None". So I'm not sure what's up. Though I checking another file now and going to play with some settings.
     
  4. noregrets

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    Check your colour adjustments, not too sure about your rip/driver setup, but you will most likely have the yellow upped a bit...
     
  5. Designer Wraps

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    Nope. It's not. Again, if there is 'no color' in the file - I don't understand why it's printing a color. It should NOT print anything. I had a 1204 prior to this one and it worked great. It skipped over white (no color) areas like it's supposed to.

    I just talked the Co that sold me the printer and everyone tells me it's a profile issue and that I need to buy media from them. I told them if it's a profile why does it also do it on the same media they sell (which is higher than everyone else anyway, but that's another story). Whether it's 3M, Oracal, Avery - WITH PROPER PROFILES - it does the same thing.

    ugggg
     
  6. QCman

    QCman New Member

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    Was the file for the banner scaned or downloaded?
     
  7. Designer Wraps

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    it's not the file.


    I just updated my RIP software ... still doing it. I wish I could figure this out. I finally got some support - we'll see what happens.
     
  8. Designer Wraps

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    Alright so who knows how long it's going to take for support to get back to me while my ink flows like water ...

    If anyone has anything else they can think of for me to try, please let me know ... it's appreciated!!
     
  9. P Wagner

    P Wagner Very Active Member

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    What file type(s) are you sending to the RIP? Are they raster files, such as TIF or JPG, or Postscript files, such as EPS or PDF?

    The rendering intent used for raster/ vector data sets can cause this issue- do not use Absolute Colorimetric rendering intent as it can cause this problem.
     
  10. Designer Wraps

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    Any type does the same thing jpg, tiff, esp, pdf ... doesn't matter what the file is.

    RI is:
    Bitmap = Perceptual
    the rest = Relative Colormetric
     
  11. P Wagner

    P Wagner Very Active Member

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    Are you creating these files in FlexiSIGN, and then putputting them via the RIP+Print window?

    The other option is to save the data in an appropriate file format (EPS, TIF etc), and then brin that file directly into the Production Manager RIP via File Menu > Add Job.

    My real question is whether the problem is happening in areas where there are white pixels only, or in areas where there is no data, such as around a pure vector file.
     
  12. Designer Wraps

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    That's a good idea. I will try it.

    Answer - either way, it happens (created in Flexi or imported). Pixel and no data. That's what's throwing me - it just does not make sense.

    Ok support just had me do a TEST PRINT / PALLETTE from the printer itself and from what I can tell, it printed perfectly with no yellowish tint.

    So now, I guess, I know it's a software/RIP issue.
     
  13. Designer Wraps

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    Got it. It was a Firmware issue on the printer. Upgraded that, plus they did some other crazy stuff inside of a file somewhere, and now it's fixed. Working like it should. Why didn't I raise hell months ago? ;o

    Thanks for your help here guys!
     
  14. chrisphilipps

    chrisphilipps Merchant Member

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    Actually this was an issue in the rip not on the printer. I updated the firmware since I was on the phone. The fact that the printer's internal Palette test printed without any issues shows this.
     
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