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Printing on frosted vinyl

Discussion in 'Vinyl' started by jimbug72, Sep 16, 2019.

  1. jimbug72

    jimbug72 Member

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    I have received a request to quote some interior windows that they want prints installed with full coverage. They said want it to be "on a frosted material."

    I was thinking of using Oracal 8510 or 8710. My thoughts were to print the graphics, and apply without laminate but I figured I'd consult with the experts on here to see if there were any reasons why I shouldn't/couldn't print on either of those materials that I'm not thinking of.

    Also, if I the consensus is that I should laminate, what would be suggested?

    Thanks in advance for any and all input!
     
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  2. tbullo

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    I don't know about those Oracal products, but we print on concept 790AE with great results.
     
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  3. Jack Walker

    Jack Walker New Member

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    We have solvent printed on 8510 without any issues. As far as laminate, I would suggest doing so out of sheer peace of mind. Harsh chemical cleaners wiped across the print could smear it even after it has properly cured. We pair it with Oraguard 290 M or G.
     
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  4. SignMeUpGraphics

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    Print on optically clear, laminate with frosted then apply to glass.
     
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  5. peterprintingparty

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    I've successfully printed on frosted glass with solvent ink. When we tried with our gel printer the ink came off with the transfer paper. So a laminate would be your safe bet.
     
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  6. jimbug72

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    Thanks for all of the input everyone. I'm going to experiment with laminates to see what they like the best. Laminating over optically clear with the frosted sounds interesting. Curious to see how that looks.
     
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    fresh Very Active Member

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    You can also print on matte lamination. It looks frosted on glass.
     
  8. Marshal

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    I did a job on Oracal 8710 with our epson s80600 and it worked great. I couldn't scratch it without really trying
     
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  9. Reveal1

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    Mactac Bfree prints and installs wonderfully. Wouldn't laminate if applied to interior surface of glass as is most frosted material.
     
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  10. ORAFOL Americas

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    When laminating the 8510 and the 8710 the material will become transparent and loose much of its frosted/etched appearance. The films appearance is caused by the slight texture/pores of the material, and by putting laminate on top it fills that texture in making the material more transparent.
     
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  11. bigben

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    Do you have a picture of an install with this material? I'm looking for something that the print will show good on both sides of the glass. I've got a sample that is very good, but it's stick like a static cling, not adhesive. Also, how is the install for large pieces? We use mactac b-free, but without premask on it, it's not easy to install for large sizes.
     
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  12. burgmurk

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    We printed this on 3M 5525 haze using an HP 360, no laminate. it came out better than i expected it to, and the ink bonded really well.
    IMG_20190821_130153.jpg IMG_20190904_112435.jpg
     
  13. Bly

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    Doesn't even need to be optically clear - we've used polymeric laminate and it works great.
     
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  14. tbullo

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    Here is a pic. of a workout room we did. Both sides show good. Easy to install, has air release liner.
     

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  15. chromira

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    Etchmark Film has worked for me in the past. We use it for both etched glass look and diffuse coverage with graphics.
     
  16. bigben

    bigben Very Active Member

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    do you have a picture from the other side of the glass?

    Is this the concept 790AE? Did not need to laminate it or put a premask to install it?
     
  17. tbullo

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    This is Concept 790AE. No laminate or premask was used. Installed on the inside of room.
     
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