printing on oracal 651

[teamrolex]

Hi,

3 questions, please help me out.

Can't get constant supply of 3651 white so thinking to make do with 651.
I read 651 is printable same like the 3651.
Which profile do you use ? same 3651 profile ?

Is there a silver or metallic 651 that I can print on ? I see a silver Metallic (091), can I print on these ?

Also, looking at printing on transparent, since I plan to stock 210 lam, any disadvantage(s) of printing on 210 instead of 651 transparent ?

Thanks.

 

[SightLine]

You can print fine on many solid color vinyls however your main catch will be that NONE of those are guaranteed in any way to be free of surface contaminants and will be warranted in any way for be printed on. That being said, I've done it quite a few times and we print on Avery silver metallic with great results. As far as profiles go you will need to experient a little but the 3651 profile should work fine. I've never had much call for printing on clear so I cannot advise on that.

 

[MikePro]

+1 to high chance of contaminated rolls.
prep your media with a low% isopropyl alcohol + water sprayed onto a microfiber towel (i use gloves) and you'll have a good shot at making it work.

 

[TresL]

white 651 prints great!

 

[signswi]

Find a new source...

Edit: Just noticed your location :/ Have you tried intermediates from other brands?

 

[teamrolex]

Thank u for your replies.

On the part of printing on clears.
Since I stock oracal 210 for lam.
Should I use this for printing instead of stocking another roll of 651 or 3651 clear ?

What do u think ?

 

[MontereySigns]

Yes, you can print onto 651, 210, and lots of other plotter films, laminates, metallics, and some reflectives. Just know its not meant to absorb ink, could have contaminates and static electricity, too. That being said many people print onto these materials with good results. Just try not to make a habit of it for long-term success.

-Bud

 

[teamrolex]

Thanks for replies.
Ok time to try some of these materials.

 

[SummitSignsandmore]

I print / contour cut with my VJ on 651 silver metallic with no issue. Contamination of the vinyl is something to factor. I am generally only printing smaller decals with only black print. Work fine for me.

 

[splizaat]

What profile is everyone using on 651 Metallic silver?

 

[teamrolex]

Used 3651 profile on 651 white.
But on silver the result seems a little "light/fade" but still look quite good.

So I wonder if use 3651 profile for all 651 colors.

 

[bob]

Yes, you can print onto 651, 210, and lots of other plotter films, laminates, metallics, and some reflectives. Just know its not meant to absorb ink, could have contaminates and static electricity, too. That being said many people print onto these materials with good results. Just try not to make a habit of it for long-term success...

Not meant to absorb ink? It's plain old vanilla vinyl and it's solvent ink. The solvent acts on the vinyl, no particular absorption qualities needed. Why do you think you have to heat the stuff up in the first place?

As others previously noted, the only real drawback with vinyls not intended for printing is that representatives of the working classes may have put their less than clean hands on somewhere upon it. Even that causing problems is a rarity.

With solvent inks you can print on most any vinyl. Printing on vinyls other than white can produce some rather interesting color variations. As far as the ink bonding on the media, I've only found one vinyl, for Arlon I believe, that was, for whatever reasons, pretty much unprintable. As a general rule, if cleaning fluid from a cleaning cartridge will etch the vinyl then you can be reasonably certain you can print on it.

 

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[gnubler]

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[Humble PM]

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[Gino]

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[Gino]

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[gnubler]

For a Mom Bot Lynn sure has a lot of technical knowledge.

 

[Johnny Best]

Lynn looks just like my 3rd grade teacher.