project pricing and materials

[visual800]

you made 425 bucks? Do you have no employees, or overhead? Do you treat yourself as an employee? If not, you're doing it wrong... Owner or not, you need to treat yourself as an employee, and count that as a cost when doing installs.

So basically $100+ bucks per hour is not quite enough for you? I never asked anyone opinion on how they felt about what I made. I don't care how you feel about me and what I charge. I saw an opportunity and I took it.

Colorado you mentioned 1.5 hours for this install how many guys?

 

[Craig Sjoquist]

Just did 4 windows and a door $1,000 .. they all were 7 ft high but just lettering, got another paint the windows area and much larger with just there name on 2 areas same price, both are perm..

So yours sounds about normal, I would have use my Avery Transit Vinyl, cut around the letters, with black paint in shop, applied on site, 5ft X 8ft X 3 = 120 sq ft X $6 = $720 if looking at copy was easy I could lower the price or if graphics were complicated could really increase the price like full color, then it was a temporary sign so earning a good profit is all ya get no little marketing value unless several as time goes on.

 

[Malkin]

I think I would have suggested using coro. Seam it together, add vinyl letters and install with some d/f clear banner tape around the edges. 1 hour total time.

This will also be way easier for removal in a few months.

 

[visual800]

the only option I suggested was printed banners hung inside of window, also was not an option. When I hear something is temp I will go thru every avenue to keep from doing the most work

Man, order banners, go out and hang how simple was that. Nope they wanted vinyl on windows. Sometimes you gotta do what is expected.

 

[2B]

Did the windows have to be black with white text?

if there was room to wiggle there would have made the background white and the text black that would allow us to print on Oracal 3641, opaque backing for the block out.
No weeding or layering.

Either way you are correct you have to know the area for the pricing.

for what you did would be closer to 800 for us

 

[boxerbay]

I would have printed it on IJ35C-10 no lam. no weeding no building of copy. print, trim, roll on to windows, done. I would've been done in 2 hours. My calc comes in at $652.00 w/ 3.5hrs labor.

 

[boxerbay]

you see an opportunity you take it.

same here. we received an offer to do a job from another printing company in Oregon but it is for an event here locally. so we're basically just printing and delivering. she gave us a price she was willing to pay and in total the deal was about $6000 but when calc everything we were a bit below what we would normally charge. Guess what we took her $6000. it happens. do what is best for your company and your needs not what everyone else is preaching.

 

[rjssigns]

Ahh...those windows will have a good chance of shattering if they are I.G. panels.(Insulated Glass)
There are a lot of other factors to consider like tempered, annealed, partial shade etc...
In fact i just got off the phone with Nick and he said he wouldn't recommend it. I know I will screw something up in translation so here is his site: http://www.windowfilmspecialists.com/
Might want to Google for a film to glass chart if they are not trade only. Nick said they are pretty accurate if something is going to fail.

 

[TyrantDesigner]

I wouldn't get out of bed to install that vinyl for less than a grand. black coat the windows with a good quality gloss paint to black them out, at the end of the day then casually the next day install white cut on top ... probably take about 3 hours total ... I would do that for $500 but would charge for 2 service calls.

 

[HulkSmash]

So basically $100+ bucks per hour is not quite enough for you? I never asked anyone opinion on how they felt about what I made. I don't care how you feel about me and what I charge. I saw an opportunity and I took it.

Colorado you mentioned 1.5 hours for this install how many guys?

I charge 85 an hr for 1 guy, and 120 for 2. 1 guy could do that in an hr and a half. An hr a window....? No way. 20-25 min max per window. Clean, hinge, wipe.

I would charge them like 240 for install, the rest is materials... You'd be silly to install without lam. I wouldn't touch it without lam... installing a window without lam that size is difficult enough.. and after you squeegee it scratches all over it that you cannot heat out because you don't have it laminated..just sounds awful.

with labor you're at like 3 bucks a sqft....?

 

[TyrantDesigner]

I would have printed it on IJ35C-10 no lam. no weeding no building of copy. print, trim, roll on to windows, done. I would've been done in 2 hours. My calc comes in at $652.00 w/ 3.5hrs labor.

if I outsource the print so I'm not doing double work ... I could do it for about that price not counting the service call fee. (god, gas gets expensive lately)

Visual ... would the customer want to see solid black inside or the white backside?

 

[Tintman928]

Ahh...those windows will have a good chance of shattering if they are I.G. panels.(Insulated Glass)
There are a lot of other factors to consider like tempered, annealed, partial shade etc...
In fact i just got off the phone with Nick and he said he wouldn't recommend it. I know I will screw something up in translation so here is his site: http://www.windowfilmspecialists.com/
Might want to Google for a film to glass chart if they are not trade only. Nick said they are pretty accurate if something is going to fail.

Exterior application has ZERO chance of breakage, if it was interior app on a dual pane unit, YES very high probability, but not on an exterior app. Any F2G chart will tell you that.

 

[Craig Sjoquist]

Lets see the finished picture, been so many comments on it and prices given, be nice to see the real job.

 

[Locals Find!]

I would have painted the inside of the windows with strip away 5140-Black its what a lot of commercial real estate companies use between leasing storefronts. Then just applied the white vinyl to the outside. Just roll it on. It peels away really easy when you want it off. Clean up is a breeze.

http://www.mileschemicalsolutions.co/paint_powder_removal_order_form.htm

I probably would have been close to your same pricing in the end.

 

[Pat Whatley]

I'd have charged $1800 plus I would have gotten a $400 art charge with it and I'd have gotten paid up front, in cash, and I would have covered the window in top secret vinyl that my 3M rep smuggles out of Czechoslovakia just for me because he knows I'm a professional and professionals only use this stuff.

I'm so damn busy I turn down jobs like this everyday because I can't fit the vinyl in the van between the bags of money I don't have time to take to the bank.

You're obviously a low balling hack who needs to get the heck out of the business and quit ruining it for the rest of us. Go back to recycling soda cans and cutting grass you fool.

 

[tsgstl]

I would of paneled it with 30" rolls of black calendared masked with transfer tape. Added the calendared white one guy 1:30 tops for around that. If they couldn't do it paneled I give them option b for a lot more forcing them to do A or I make more profit. Still 3 hours seems long (probably not but thinking it out seems long)

Some of these prices and options seem surprising. I wish I had 3 jobs like this everyday. Very low cost of goods and more importantly very few chances of mistakes or wear on equipment.

I think you priced it competitively and it probably was the most profitable 3 hours per employee job you had all week.

 

[Gino]

I'd have charged $1800 plus I would have gotten a $400 art charge with it and I'd have gotten paid up front, in cash, and I would have covered the window in top secret vinyl that my 3M rep smuggles out of Czechoslovakia just for me because he knows I'm a professional and professionals only use this stuff.

I'm so damn busy I turn down jobs like this everyday because I can't fit the vinyl in the van between the bags of money I don't have time to take to the bank.

You're obviously a low balling hack who needs to get the heck out of the business and quit ruining it for the rest of us. Go back to recycling soda cans and cutting grass you fool.

If you'd go down to the corner 5 and 10 and wait long enough...... you could get the kind from Innerhinnerschitzelville. It is Black Market, but no one will know the difference, if you instal during the daytime. With this stuff, you can eliminate the collections of recyclables and only do vinyl installations and still make money by farming it out to little people from other countries with little hands. You can pay with chickens and toilet paper cause they likey paper products and to eat.

 

[visual800]

i can do dat!

 

[visual800]

I'd have charged $1800 plus I would have gotten a $400 art charge with it and I'd have gotten paid up front, in cash, and I would have covered the window in top secret vinyl that my 3M rep smuggles out of Czechoslovakia just for me because he knows I'm a professional and professionals only use this stuff.

I'm so damn busy I turn down jobs like this everyday because I can't fit the vinyl in the van between the bags of money I don't have time to take to the bank.

You're obviously a low balling hack who needs to get the heck out of the business and quit ruining it for the rest of us. Go back to recycling soda cans and cutting grass you fool.

YEAH! Thats what most of the sign folks will claim!