Richo L5160 - anyone got one?

Wow they jumped the price alot!

The ink is not like HP, scratches really easy and we can separate it from the base film when laminated.

 

Epson S80 is a better decision. You could buy 2 at that price. The Richo has not had a good track record...if you need to go latex, stick with HP.

 

I'm not sure what true cmyk gets you either except a smaller color gamut. If you need a cmyk only profile, you can create one onboard with a hp l365 or 560. Or better yet, buy 2 epson s80's with an Ione color meter for the same price as the Ricoh

 

The gamut is huge on the ricoh, it has a 4pl dot size and greyscale heads.

 

...40k is all I need to know
that's a lot of money for one unit to end up printing banners

 

We were originally quoted $23,000 in may. That's a huge jump.

 

I prefer Mimaki ucjv300

 

POA is not a reseller so they buy then sell. I can give you Mike's number from Ricoh if you want to PM me.

We don't have one... we were looking at buying one in may but it couldn't compete with our HP and we could easily scratch the ink and pull it off the vinyl surface so we passed.

We just bought a 1650 for fleet graphics and simple wraps to go with our 570s.

 

Your blacks look greenish? Do you build your files in cmyk or rgb? I’m guessing cmyk. I always work in rgb, the rip will convert everything to cmyk. Running a color calibration on your 335 should resolve that.
The other thing to look at is your build of black. You don’t need anything more than 30/30/30/100 I use 20/20/20/100

 

So what is wrong with 100% HP Latex Black? I set black output value to 100% black all the time and it looks pretty good. Never found much advantage to set the output values to 20/20/20/100 as it looked visually the same, and anything more looked worse because you started hitting the built in ink density values and were probably not getting 100% K any more.

When you print the calibration target what is wrong with the black patch? It looks fine to me.

 

No it does not. If you send it an output value of 100% K that is what it prints providing you ink density setting in the media preset is not set to low. You can print pure C, M or Y the same way. Might be some RIPs can't be set to do that but for RIPs that have Replace Color functions you can set the output value. But all rips should if CM is turn off print 100% of each color providing the input file is 100% only of each color.

 

You first have to understand all the ways a RIP handles black including how black is generated by your output profile based on your settings when you create that profile, and how it can affect what the printer actually prints before you design anything. For example with black if you don't want to use the color replacement tool in the RIP you could make a spot color library with CMYK output values that the RIP would use for that named spot color.