S80600 Users: Do you print Red and Orange ink for outdoor use?

We've had an s80600 for about 8 months now, great machine. Because of mainly reading on here about poor durability of R and O ink outdoors, we use an outdoor profile that omits R and O ink. I'm wondering how many shops do this, and how many shops use R/O for outdoor. And how have the R and O inks held up outdoors?

We printed some tests and put them on the roof, laminated and unlaminated, with and without R/O ink. Only been 8 months in the northeast, but they still look as good as the control prints.. The thing is some colors look a whole lot better using all the ink colors, but we don't want prematurely fading signs out there either. And I can't help but wonder if we are avoiding R/O just because a couple people had issues and posted all over about it, or is this actually a problem. To compound the matter, I've read back on some threads and it seems maybe this was more of an issue with the previous generation surecolor s70.

So if you could please answer the poll and post some details about your experience, good or bad. If anybody has photos to share of any fading or failures that'd be great too.

 

Is it possible for a Moderator to change the poll results to public? Would like to be able to message some respondents directly. Sorry, first poll I've created and didn't realize what that option was.

 

Epson told you that? Or a dealer? Was this verbally or did they send you some documentation with this information?

 

Yes I've seen this before for the waranty from 3M, but I've not seen anything directly from epson about it. And I would imagine there are quite a few s80 owners who have never heard about the R/O ink being bad, so there is most likely a lot of people printing it for outdoor. And if that's true, they've been out long enough now that you'd hear a lot more about actual fading issues?

Even without R/O we see a huge difference in print quality vs 4 and 6 color printers because of the Light Black. So for us this is more important than the additional speed of the s60.

 

What about the use of white as a base when printing clear decals? How do they hold up outdoors?

So this is partly why I started the poll, because I haven't really heard of any issues related to the GS3 inks in the newer surecolors. We are right in that window of 6-9 months for our test prints. So I'll keep an eye on them but so far no issues.

 

How long have you been printing this way?

 

That's good to know. Any red or orange prints out in the field that you've been keeping your eye on?

 

Good to know. Are you printing R/O for outdoor use?