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Seiko Color Painter w-64s Wasatch Profiles

Discussion in 'Digital Printing' started by SecretHell, Oct 29, 2012.

  1. SecretHell

    SecretHell New Member

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    Does anyone out here have Wasatch Profiles for our color Painter w-64s? if not, what rip software are you using on your color painter?
     
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  2. Matt-Tastic

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    have you checked with wasatch? they had a few a while back, and since the printer is ancient, they are probably still around.

    you may also be able to find and use hp designjet 8000s profiles, as they are the same printer.
     
  3. SecretHell

    SecretHell New Member

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    this printer is only 2 years old at tops. its the new colorpainter W-64-s not the old 64s or v-64-s
     
  4. J Hill Designs

    J Hill Designs Major Contributor

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    I can only find color profiles for caldera and onyx for that printer
     
  5. Donny7833

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    Mine came with Onyx Rip Center for Seiko (already have Production House), but it's only 3 months old. Maybe they didn't offer the rip when you bought yours.

    If your W-64 came with Onyx Rip Center, install the Onyx Rip and run your W-64 with that. Plenty of pre-installed profiles, and good ones at that. I'm sure there's even more available from Onyx if your copy is 2 years old.
     
  6. SecretHell

    SecretHell New Member

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    Donny7833 thats what we are doing now and it works beautifully, but we've had a service contract with wasatch for like 10 years and and we are running a plotter with our digital printer and without buying onyx as well our solutions for cutting are running thin.
     
  7. P Wagner

    P Wagner Very Active Member

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    Incorrect. The HP Designjet 9000S is based on the original ColorPainter 64S
     
  8. Matt-Tastic

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    Yes, but then HP made the HP8000 a year or 2 later. Once HP got out of the solvent printer game (to develop latex), Seiko kept the technology and rebranded the HP8000 the w-64s.

    http://www.seiko-i.com/products/gra...cuments/w-64s_brochure_final_10.21_web_us.pdf

    They may have changed some of the internals or ink config, but the body and design are identical to the old 8000. I haven't been able to see anyone who bought a w-64s, but i've seen them online and at shows, and cant' tell the difference at a glance.

    HP 8000 video
    Seiko w64-s video

    They look REALLY similar.
     
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  9. SecretHell

    SecretHell New Member

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    mattastic, the colorpainter w-64s uses IX eco solvent inks. their light cyan and light magenta when printed in a color strip look like normal cyan and magenta, but their cyan and magenta looks more like a dark blue and dark pink compared to other printer inks. from what ive gathered its their own brand of ink and no profiles but profiles built for it will work correctly color wise.
     
  10. Matt-Tastic

    Matt-Tastic Member

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    Not surprising they reformulated the ink. Seiko is an odd company.
     
  11. djcoldzero

    djcoldzero New Member

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    profiling service

    hello to everyone:
    my name is david and i will like to let you know that i love how seiko printers behave with wasacht rip.
    I am a certified technician by Seiko Infotech Instruments and part of my"specialist" training was operating the whole seiko line with ony rip and wasatch softrip, so if you like it we can try to build an icc bank or i can do a profiling service for your W-64s only you have to send me the printed patches and i will make the measures and the icc calculation.
    Thanks!!
     
  12. humberto

    humberto New Member

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    seiko 64s I got it for free , please help me wake' r up !!!!!!!!

    well I just got a seiko 64s for free from a sing company , so I'm trying to figure it out how to run it what operating system to use , what rip , I see there's a SCSI port on the front of the printer so what card should I use any drives to load on to the computer etc,, please help me to get this dinosaur alive
     
  13. Correct Color

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    djcoldzero,

    Interesting.

    How are you going to handle setting the single-channel ink limits? How are you going to handle linearization? How are you going to handle setting the multi-channel ink limits?

    I've been doing inkjet profiling exclusively for over ten years now, and I'd never tell anyone I could profile any RIP driven machine remotely.

    Granted, these operations are pretty rudimentary in Wasatch, but they still have to be done, and they are the whole point of profiling.

    Personally, I love the W-64, and no, it isn't the same printer as the old HP 8000. Basically what it is -- in practice -- is a little brother version of the H. While they don't claim it's the same, its ink has an identical gamut to the H, and it will hit every color the H will hit, it's just slower.

    And myself, I would not run the thing with Wasatch. It has no PMS library and it's just too rudimentary of a RIP in terms of the machine controls it gives to the profiler. This machine deserves better.


    Mike Adams
    Correct Color
     
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