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Setting up a sheet with crop marks in Onyx

Discussion in 'RIP Software & Color Management' started by SIGNTIME, Sep 8, 2020.

  1. SIGNTIME

    SIGNTIME Active Member

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    Hello,
    I am trying to set up a sheet with crops and bleed in Onyx Job Editor. When I set up with the "Marks" tab, the marks are on the outside of the bleed. If I set them up as fold marks under the "Bleed" tab they are on the trim which is good but I want to print multiple copies and have the marks overlap on the middle, top and bottom to save room / do less cutting. What am I missing to add bleed, crop marks on the trim and not have any space between the multiple copies / overlap crops?
    Thank you
     
  2. balstestrat

    balstestrat Member

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    I'm not sure if I understood correctly but you only want the bleed on the outer edges of this whole job correct? And no bleed at all on the inside so you can cut two copies with one cut? If so I don't think it's possible in Onyx.
     
  3. SIGNTIME

    SIGNTIME Active Member

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    I want to set up a file that looks like this with these type of crops
     

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  4. eahicks

    eahicks Magna Cum Laude - School of Hard Knocks

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    Well there, you figured it out. Although I'm not sure why you need the bleed if you're cutting to the outer crop marks. I set them up like this quite a bit, but don't use any bleed.
     
  5. SIGNTIME

    SIGNTIME Active Member

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    I set that image up in illustrator. I'm wondering if Onyx has a way to set it up like this to save time
     
  6. balstestrat

    balstestrat Member

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    Yeah I don't think there is any way to set that outer edge bleed in Onyx. Crop marks and copies you should be able to do just like that.
     
  7. iPrintStuff

    iPrintStuff Prints stuff

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    I haven’t ever tried this so wouldn’t be able to confirm if it’s possible to do in onyx..

    But couldn’t you just put the marks on 1 artwork and then step that artwork up in onyx with 0 gap between copies?
     
  8. JBurton

    JBurton Signtologist

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    I find doing stuff in Corel to avoid doing it in Onyx saves me time, not the other way around...
     
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  9. CanuckSigns

    CanuckSigns Very Active Member

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    Why do you need bleed on the outer perimeter? I would set these up in onyx with trim corner marks and 0 space between copies.

    Bleed is not as critical in our industry for things like this, just cut 0.5mm inside the print with your ruler and knife when cutting them out.
     
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  10. Signed Out

    Signed Out Very Active Member

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    So if we are doing 8"x4" signs, we print an 8'x4' print, 144 signs, and mount to a 8'x4' sheet of alum. We then shear down the sheet into 8"x4" signs. If you don't have bleed to on the perimeter, then everything else has to work out perfectly to get all 144 signs our of a sheet. You can't really shear off less than .1", so if you just cut inside the print, a bunch of signs end up a little smaller than the rest. This can present problems when putting the signs through a jig to punch holes and round corners, especially if the copy on the signs is tight to holes or such.

    Another scenario is if you have several different signs, of varying quantities that you need to gang up. Same material and substrate, different designs and sizes. Would be nice if you could throw a handful of these at onyx and let onyx gang everything up to your sheet size, and apply trim marks and a mirror bleed on the perimeter of the print.

    All of this can be done in illustrator or any design software, but it would be a big time saver if onyx could handle it.
     
  11. balstestrat

    balstestrat Member

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    Well Layout tool in Thrive sucks *** but have you tried with that?
     
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  12. myront

    myront CorelDRAW is best

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    In Corel I can make quick work of this using a couple of custom macros. Agree that no bleed is needed.
     
  13. Signed Out

    Signed Out Very Active Member

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    Are you adding in the trim marks on the corners of the signs using a macro? Making copies of the signs and arranging them with a macro? I use a few macros I've created in illustrator for bleeding and cutlines. Hadn't thought to try a macro for this type of situation. Care to explain your macro process a bit?
     
  14. myront

    myront CorelDRAW is best

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  15. Pauly

    Pauly Colour Guru

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    change your spacing in the layout section in ripque. it should offset it to not overlap
     
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