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Sihl Trisolve Posters sticking together

Discussion in 'Roland' started by pixel_pusher, Jan 18, 2011.

  1. pixel_pusher

    pixel_pusher Member

    Feb 29, 2008
    We printed 100 24x36 posters for a client last month. After trimming them out, we stacked them in piles of 50, and wrapped them in backing paper. When they opened the packages a few weeks later to distribute, the printed faces were sticking to the backs of the one on above them, which peeled most of the ink off.

    Before I reprint these, are there any tips for printing slightly high volume glossy paper posters other than printing them in pairs and letting them lie flat and cover every flat surface for 2 days before cutting? I use a Roland VP-540, and the GPPG profile in versaworks with sign and display color mode.
  2. Jet Fast Printing

    Jet Fast Printing Member

    Sep 22, 2009

    I would say that yes, you have to let them completely dry before stacking. Can you hang them on the wall's with some sort of clip?
  3. pixel_pusher

    pixel_pusher Member

    Feb 29, 2008
    I can't even use my take up reel for these without them sticking together. Typically, I would print them 10 or so at a time, unroll the take up reel, and roughly chop the individuals out with scissors. Then, fan them out loosely on the table to let them dry. With this paper, however, you can hear the peeling sound when you unroll from the take up. Could heat or color profile settings be changed for better results?
  4. LarryB

    LarryB Member

    Dec 3, 2006
    Webster, Texas
    We have had the same issues with many other papers we print on. Last batch we tried the Roland paper material and it printed better. I think there is a profile you can use which matches the media. Print was still a little tacky but better than other profiles.
  5. pixel_pusher

    pixel_pusher Member

    Feb 29, 2008
    Would a satin finish paper work better? We used to use Sihl Syntisol satin, and it was great, but they discontinued it and gave us the Trisolv.
  6. Bill Modzel

    Bill Modzel Active Member

    I've run quite a bit of this stuff on my HP9000s. I print in 8 pass mode which probably gives them a bit more time to dry before they roll up. I know that 4 pass would never work.
    I have had some slight sticking but not enough to mar the prints. Once cut I do rack them on my screen print drying racks overnight just in case and so far it's been a non-issue.
  7. Andrew O

    Andrew O Merchant Member

    Jan 16, 2009
    Irvine, CA
    Roland's Solvent Glossy Paper might be an option. It dries quite well and there is a profile set up for in VersaWorks which will keep you from laying down too much ink.


    There are sample rolls in stock here in Irvine if you want to try one out. Feel free to call customer service at 800-542-2307 to request one.

    WYLDGFI Merchant Member

    Oct 27, 2006
    Linden, NJ
    Try using a small fan or heater

    Try using a small fan or ceramic heater in front of the prints.
    We have had the same issue with a similar material and gave up solvent printing them on the 540.....switched them to UV on the flatbed. Instant dry.
  9. BigfishDM

    BigfishDM Merchant Member

    Jun 22, 2009
    All Over
    If you guys ran a latex printer you could print photo gloss all day long for only $0.08 a sq.ft. Dont have any drying issues either.
  10. Donny7833

    Donny7833 Member

    Nov 6, 2006
    Bluffton, SC
    Run a ton of Trisolve on my GS6000. 8 pass bi di, with a Black Body infrared heater. If I don't use the heater, I get sticking issues as well. With the heater I can run a whole roll without any worries.

    The Trisolve will take pretty high dry temps, just don't forget to pull the heater away when the print is done.
  11. Jack Knight1979

    Jack Knight1979 Very Active Member

    Jan 23, 2008
    I run trisolv and love it. I too get the sticking, so I put a low velocity fan on the back side of my TUR and let the fan hit the ink.

    Takes the stick out of it. Works like a charm.

    If I have heavy ink coverage like on a black posters I put a fan on the front and back.

    I'm talking lil' 6 or 8" fans from walmart that cost 10 bucks.
  12. insignia

    insignia Very Active Member

    Trisolv dries slowly, you need to either slow your print down or crank the heat up (or use a heater), or both. We run Trisolv pretty fast but we use an infrared DigiDri dryer in front of it.

    I can't say if this will work for you or not since we don't have Roland machines, but we get amazing results on Trisolv 3686 using Oracal's 3651 profile. You might give it a shot, on our machines it seems to lay down just the right amount of ink.
  13. Large Format

    Large Format Member

    Jan 17, 2011
    I agree with Andrew at Roland the SGP works very well. It is one of the best selling Roland papers we carry
  14. stillhasdust

    stillhasdust Member

    Jun 9, 2008
    The roland poster paper is the only one I have had success with. Every other paper takes forever to dry.
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