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Squeeze Roller - getting wrinkles

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous Hardware' started by BFS, Oct 2, 2019.

  1. BFS

    BFS New Member

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    I'm currently using a squeeze roller table, with an upper holder bar, from Highway Handyman to apply premask to vinyl and sheeting to signs, among other things. When applying premask (application tape), I will get wrinkles on occasion especially on longer pieces (4'-5'L). It's always one long wrinkle. It's when the paper starts to bunch up about halfway through.

    Things I've done:
    • Checked to make sure the paper is going in as straight as I can get it
    • Pull with a tube, instead of my hands, through the roller so the pressure is the same
    • Made sure the tape is being pulled evenly across
    • Confirmed the roller drops evenly
    • 30 pressure
    Is there anything else you guys can think of that may help alleviate this issue? It's pretty annoying getting halfway through a 6' piece and having it wrinkle lol. Generally I will stop, cut the premask, and re-apply starting at the halfway point. I would just like to get all the way through a piece without this problem.

    Thanks!
     
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  2. Joe House

    Joe House Active Member

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    Try working in the center of the roller. Some of those are slightly crowned in the center and will cause wrinkles if you're working at the edge of the table.

    Good Luck,
     
  3. DrunknMonk

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    make sure you put your app tape on as soon as you have weed anything, the longer you leave it the worst it can get.
     
  4. JBurton

    JBurton Signtologist

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    I find this odd, I will often plot and weed same day, but if I know the install is not for several days, I'll opt to lay the vinyl flat somewhere until install day. It keeps my premask from absorbing too much moisture and beginning to tent in areas. Most of my cut stuff is on 3m cast with the clear backing, so maybe this is more of a paper liner kind of difference?
     
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  5. DrunknMonk

    DrunknMonk Member

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    we have had our application table for 4+ years, 6m long. we always had this problem with application tapes, I was told this year it was all to do with the liner, once the vinyl waste has been removed, the vinyl can change the way lies on the release liner so tape as soon as you can, and also do relief cuts between weeding boards if possible
     
  6. BIG EASY DOES IT

    BIG EASY DOES IT Very Active Member

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    Why not just apply it by hand it doesn't take much longer and comes out just as nice.

    When is the last time you replaced the rubber on your squeeze roller? We replace rubber on our laminators and application tables every other year basically. Because of this. Especially on the squeeze rollers. When the edges of your aluminum are constantly falling off the edge and bumping back over top of the aluminum the top rubber roller tends to get worn down. Also the aluminum base roller on the highway rollers is really not ideal for laminating sheeting or putting transfer tape on. These are made more for making aluminum signs.
     
  7. JBurton

    JBurton Signtologist

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    Oh, I am an idiot and didn't think about how that applies to the table. I don't have one of these, just a regular laminator, and had the worst experience trying to mask with the laminator and haven't bothered to try since. It was like I put too much tension on the mask so the adhesion was lower than normal and the letters half adhered and half did not to the premask.
    I can see the desire to premask by machine if you are doing hundreds of feet a day.
     
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