Here in the states, wage rates very widely from state to state and the anti-union states pass what are paradoxically called "right to work" laws, which sound great, but lock in a lot of downward pressure on wages and benefits for the owning class in those states. The OP lives in one of those states. He'd have a better chance of flying to the moon than making $25-30 per hour in West Virginia. I wouldn't be surprised to find out some shops there barely charge that as their shop rate, let alone a wage.
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Here in the states, wage rates very widely from state to state and the anti-union states pass what are paradoxically called "right to work" laws, which sound great, but lock in a lot of downward pressure on wages and benefits for the owning class in those states. The OP lives in one of those states. He'd have a better chance of flying to the moon than making $25-30 per hour in West Virginia. I wouldn't be surprised to find out some shops there barely charge that as their shop rate, let alone a wage.
Johnny Best
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I don't think the guy asked if he could fly to the moon or he is planning on moving to a non "right to work state", He just bought a house.
I know you are a toad and like to jump around, but stay on topic Dude.
He has to have an hourly rate that stays with other local shops to be competitive unless he sells through the internet or does something no one else offers.
I know you are a toad and like to jump around, but stay on topic Dude.
He has to have an hourly rate that stays with other local shops to be competitive unless he sells through the internet or does something no one else offers.
My reply wasn't to the OP, it was to the poster from Australia who likely doesn't know the intricacies of our various state labor laws and local variables which are all on topic considering the OP is frustrated with why he can't seem to get ahead where he lives.
The OP already knows he's in a low wage state with few prospects, that's why he's trying to figure out how to work around it.
Gino
Premium Subscriber
I'm still trying to figure out what state he's really in ????? ...........and I don't mean state-of-mind.
Johnny Best
Active Member
West Virginia, Gino. A right to work state as T.Toad pointed out.
And $1in Australa is .75 in US, So $20 an hour there is about $15 an hour here.
And $1in Australa is .75 in US, So $20 an hour there is about $15 an hour here.
DerbyCitySignGuy
New Member
I looked it up, the cost of living wage in that part of WV is a little over $10 an hour, but the average for a production worker is around $16.
equippaint
Active Member
It's the capital
Johnny Best
Active Member
Gino, don't pick capitals of states for $500.
They also say if you flatten W Virginia out it would be the largest state.
They also say if you flatten W Virginia out it would be the largest state.
dale911
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I wanted to do signs and graphics as a hobby/side business for the last few years while working my day job as an officer. After getting PTSD following the death of a 9month old on a case I worked, I debated long and hard about making my hobby into a business. A year and a half ago, I took off my vest and stepped headlong into wholesale printing to the trade. A few months ago, I picked up a client that more than doubles 2016 sales and I am really finding my groove. I even bought a cheap bucket truck and am doing subcontract service for a few of my print clients. I, too am working 10-15 hour days during the week and a few hours a day on the weekends but the life I am living now is worth more than the money I am making. Stress is much lower, I get to decide how to grow my business, and best of all, no one wants to shoot me (that I know of right now 
. The point is, it's a scary step to take. It takes a ton of faith. If you aren't scared about going out on your own, you don't know what you are getting into. I wish you the best in your decision and don't hesitate to contact me with any questions as well.
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. The point is, it's a scary step to take. It takes a ton of faith. If you aren't scared about going out on your own, you don't know what you are getting into. I wish you the best in your decision and don't hesitate to contact me with any questions as well. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Johnny Best
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One of the best sign stories that has ever been on here. Good luck to you sir and hope you have a long and happy life.