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Discussion STS inks. Anyone have experience with them?

Discussion in 'Digital Printing' started by Pixels Are Bad Mmmkay?, Jul 31, 2019.

  1. Pixels Are Bad Mmmkay?

    Pixels Are Bad Mmmkay? Very Active Member

    I've got a vendor in our immediate area who wants to earn our business and has been able to match or beat some current prices on our media and inks. They can also match our current prices on non-OEM inks but we're currently using Bordeaux ink and have had good results as they were recommended on this forum by a few people as a good replacement ink at exceptional value. The inks this vendor sells are from a company called STS and I'm wondering if anyone here has tried these inks and whether or not they are a good reliable option.

    We're running a Mimaki CJV-150-130 with SS21 inks.
     
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  2. Joe House

    Joe House Active Member

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    What do they bring to the table that's making you consider jumping off an ink set that you have confidence in? How much is that confidence/peace of mind worth? I don't have experience with either of them, I'm just curious what the motivation is.

    Good Luck
     
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  3. premiercolour

    premiercolour Sales and services from S. California

    I would like to know that too, Same day delivery?
     
  4. Doc Zoom

    Doc Zoom Doc Zoom

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    Don't do it! It plugged all the heads on our HP 360 latex and turned to goo in our Mimaki JFX200! Cost us thousands!
     
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  5. Pixels Are Bad Mmmkay?

    Pixels Are Bad Mmmkay? Very Active Member

    They are local and offer a wide variety of the media we currently use and were willing to work with us on pricing so I thought I'd give them a shot since they also carry SS21 inks. Is that not a good enough reason?
     
  6. CanuckSigns

    CanuckSigns Very Active Member

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    My understanding of 3rd party ink is if you find a brand that you are happy with and doesn't cause issues, stick with it! So many horror stories on here from people trying to save a few pennies.

    If the new vendor is only pricematching, I wouldn't be willing to jump from a product you are happy with to an unknown.
     
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  7. Johnny Best

    Johnny Best Very Active Member

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    I'd listen to Doc Zoom, he has first hand experience.
     
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  8. Pixels Are Bad Mmmkay?

    Pixels Are Bad Mmmkay? Very Active Member

    Yeah, and that's the feedback I kind of expected. I'd never heard mention of these inks until yesterday and the forum search feature wasn't turning up anything either. I figured if there wasn't much talk about them they probably aren't worth trying.
     
  9. Gino

    Gino Premium Subscriber

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    If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

    Why would you wanna take all those chances ?? Let them earn your trust by giving you the good prices on media and let the ink part go for the moment.
     
  10. Pixels Are Bad Mmmkay?

    Pixels Are Bad Mmmkay? Very Active Member

    We already took a chance going non-OEM in the first place, in my opinion, so I'm willing to try anything once but only if it's recommended by others. The advantage, as I saw it, is the fact that they carry a lot of media that we normally have to go through three different vendors to acquire. This way, we would only have to deal with two vendors and since we've been having constant issues with one of our current vendors I have been wanting to keep my options open.
     
  11. Pixels Are Bad Mmmkay?

    Pixels Are Bad Mmmkay? Very Active Member

    Thank you very much for taking the time to reply and for the feedback.
     
  12. CMYKENGINEERING

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    We're ink guys ourselves so take what I say with a grain of salt. We have only dealt with their UV inks, which are crap. Low quality and high-potential to damage printheads. But maybe their eco-solvent inks are better *shrug*
     
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  13. GetTarps

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    No it didn't! These aftermarket inks are closely compatible.
     
  14. GetTarps

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    Some OEM's have trouble with their own ink. If u can save $$...do it!
     
  15. Gino

    Gino Premium Subscriber

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    If they were that close, wouldn't they be infringing on patents and patent rights ??
     
  16. GetTarps

    GetTarps Member

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    With chemicals anyone can reverse engineer just about anything. Not sure about patents.
     
  17. premiercolour

    premiercolour Sales and services from S. California

    Not with pigmented ink. There is more to it. Not all third party ink is the same.
     
  18. cstone94

    cstone94 Pro-Graphx

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    I ran their Aqueous inks in 2 Epson SureColor p8000’s. Chips weren’t recognized half the time, and both printers lost the LK channel in the heads. I’d look at alternatives. We have run JTECK for 6+ years.
     
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  19. Bruce Mello

    Bruce Mello Many years in the Production Business

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    There are a few ink manufacturers out there.
    I’ve been repairing printers For my customers for 20 years.
    The few customers who have used 3rd party inks have had problems with STS.
    Last year one of my customers used STS ink for their Seiko M64 printer I sold them 5 years ago since they could no longer buy the correct inks from Grimco.
    Over 3 months he thought he saved $600 but after the leaks from the pump hosing occurred due to the STS ink, the parts replacements cost him $1800.
    You should always use the manufacturer’s inks unless it’s on an HP where you are regularly replacing heads yourself anyway.
     
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  20. Active Sign

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    We Have run Bordeaux since 2011 with good results other than black overspray. Tried OEM again and then gave STS a shot on our Roland with DX4’s hoping for no overspray. StS had same overspray issue. Other than that STS ink worked fine with a little extra maintenance but we went back to Bordeaux. My suggestion would be to stick with Bordeaux if it’s working good. It is okay to spread the vendor love out to a few places.
     
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