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Discussion in 'Newbie Forum' started by tintshopplus, May 7, 2010.

  1. tintshopplus

    tintshopplus Member

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    i am doing a sign 3'x8' for outdoor. vinyl install. the only thing i can buy local for substrates are mdo, alumacorr, and signabond. this is a low budget installation and signabond makes since. will it work ok? mdo is same price but needs paint and seal. what is recommended? thanks in advance.
     
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  2. Just Another Sign Guy

    Just Another Sign Guy Very Active Member

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    there are so many variables that go into the "why" we all choose a particular material for a given project. the only information you have given us is that it is an outdoor sign and it is a low budget project...given that information all of your materials would work...
     
  3. Pro Image

    Pro Image Major Contributor

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    Signbond all the way......I use about 5 sheets a week........JMO.......
     
  4. WhiskeyDreamer

    WhiskeyDreamer Professional Snow Ninja

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    how long is the signage expected to last?
     
  5. tintshopplus

    tintshopplus Member

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    good question. forever? :ROFLMAO:

    why do you ask?
     
  6. Gino

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    Ya know tintie, if ya want good answers, try to be a little more explicit with yours.
     
  7. WhiskeyDreamer

    WhiskeyDreamer Professional Snow Ninja

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    knowing how long the signage is expected to last plays a key role in both the substrate you'll be using as well as the grade of vinyl you'll be applying to the substrate....

    if this is a perm. sign, then i'd suggest alumalite...but depending on where it will be installed, if it's going to be at hands reach, i'd also cap the edges...
     
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    How's it going to be mounted? Hung on a wall or posts? Need more info!
     
  9. tintshopplus

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    replacing another sign on a 2x4 framing above a porch roof. speaking of which... am i using screws for this? or bolts? or?
     
  10. tintshopplus

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    sorry, may have been having too much fun at the time. honestly, i'm doing this sign cheap. i'm new to the biz and helping clients that i know and will be patient with me through the process while i learn. and this guy is on a budget. he was watching his new neighbor getting a sign installed as i swung by and closed him down on one as his is currently warped and showing age. i want it to last awhile, but, i'm looking for the best bang for the buck as far as durability and price. you know, that one go to substrate that's inexpensive and universal.
     
  11. wes70

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    Go with a composite aluminum substrate, such as, Dibond, Alupanel, Polymetal, etc. Screw to the existing frame with stainless screws.
     
  12. SignManiac

    SignManiac Major Contributor

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    Give your customer two choices. Coroplast with economy calendar vinyl for one price = cheap, or Dibond and premium cast vinyl = durable and pricier. Let him decide what he wants. But by no means give him premium for a cheap price.
     
  13. WhiskeyDreamer

    WhiskeyDreamer Professional Snow Ninja

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    cheap does not equate to quality...sell him coro with 651 on it....

    have you already given the guy a price?? if so, how can you price a job out if you don't know what substrate you're going on?
     
  14. Gino

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    DING... DING... DING... DING... DING... DING... DING... DING...


    Give the young lady a CEE-GAR. :thankyou:
    That's the same riddle that stumps me every time I hear this same scenario.:ROFLMAO:
     
  15. Tim Aucoin

    Tim Aucoin Very Active Member

    Any more room on that wall Pat?? :banghead::banghead::banghead:
     
  16. tintshopplus

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    no price yet. just getting my feet wet while helping out a guy who sends me a ton of business. price isn't super important. but a low budget to upgrade what's there. i've mostly done lettering and storefronts (glass.) my first sign like this. you guys have given me a lot to consider. thanks for the replies. i will continue my research.
     
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