Summa F1612 - Vacuum recomendation

[CanuckSigns]

For foam POT knife was recommended and EOT for the e-flute. We are getting both.

Sounds like the sales rep has your boss buying all sorts of unnecessary accessories! If you have the POT, there is no need for the EOT, the POT is like the EOT on steroids, the EOT offers no advantages over the POT except you don't need a large air compressor to run it.

Sounds like your boss really wants to go all in and buy every attachment, but there are some redundancies between tools.

 

[dvdcr]

Sounds like the sales rep has your boss buying all sorts of unnecessary accessories! If you have the POT, there is no need for the EOT, the POT is like the EOT on steroids, the EOT offers no advantages over the POT except you don't need a large air compressor to run it.

Sounds like your boss really wants to go all in and buy every attachment, but there are some redundancies between tools.

I believe what was mentioned is the EOT was faster, we originally only planed to cut corrugated. Then to make box inserts with charcoal foam we needed a longer blade and only the POT could do up to 2".

 

[PHILJOHNSON]

Just wanted to clarify that the POT-L(POT long) does have a longer blade that is designed to cut the foam inserts as was previously mentioned. The POT is usually a bit too powerful to cut the softer foam boards and really would be overkill for that application. Those types of materials are handled much better with the EOT as opposed to the POT which is commonly used with thicker/denser foam boards. So, it is possible there could be a need for both tools.

Feel free to contact me if you would like to pick my brain on any of the different tool options.

Best regards,

Phil Johnson
Airmark Corporation
(800)527-7778, ext 112
philj@airmark.com

 

[kosh_al]

So this isn't the Cana-Vac but it is similar in power: https://www.amazon.com/Powerful-Cen...jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

This is the dust deputy steel drum system: https://www.oneida-air.com/dust-dep...-conductive-dust-deputy-diy-cyclone-separator & https://www.oneida-air.com/55-gallon-steel-drum-kit-dust-deputy

You would just need to add your own piping as required.

What did you end up getting? Looks like this thread got kinda hijacked from the original post. We just got a summa F1612 used and are shopping which vacuum to get. We have the HF router and the Site Prep document specifies:

The specifications for the vacuum cleaner are:
• Air output (at fan): Min 3.000l/min (106 cfm)
• Vacuum: Min 230 hPa (mbar) (92 inch of water)
• Hose diameter is 35 – 38 mm (exact specifications of connection can be found on the
internet under ‘screw cuff a72-84V’).

There are not a lot of "affordable" vacuums that actually meet these specs. We have a sign shop with printers and such around, and so do not want to skimp on the vacuum, we actually probably want something a little more powerful than minimum.

 

[ProColorGraphics]

What did you end up getting? Looks like this thread got kinda hijacked from the original post. We just got a summa F1612 used and are shopping which vacuum to get. We have the HF router and the Site Prep document specifies:

The specifications for the vacuum cleaner are:
• Air output (at fan): Min 3.000l/min (106 cfm)
• Vacuum: Min 230 hPa (mbar) (92 inch of water)
• Hose diameter is 35 – 38 mm (exact specifications of connection can be found on the
internet under ‘screw cuff a72-84V’).

There are not a lot of "affordable" vacuums that actually meet these specs. We have a sign shop with printers and such around, and so do not want to skimp on the vacuum, we actually probably want something a little more powerful than minimum.

I ended up getting the biggest/most powerful one I could find at Home Depot. So far, it has worked just fine.

 

[nsm]

What did you end up getting? Looks like this thread got kinda hijacked from the original post. We just got a summa F1612 used and are shopping which vacuum to get. We have the HF router and the Site Prep document specifies:

The specifications for the vacuum cleaner are:
• Air output (at fan): Min 3.000l/min (106 cfm)
• Vacuum: Min 230 hPa (mbar) (92 inch of water)
• Hose diameter is 35 – 38 mm (exact specifications of connection can be found on the
internet under ‘screw cuff a72-84V’).

There are not a lot of "affordable" vacuums that actually meet these specs. We have a sign shop with printers and such around, and so do not want to skimp on the vacuum, we actually probably want something a little more powerful than minimum.

I would suggest take a look at a Nilfisk or Dustcontrol. Both manufactures produce vacuums that have been used on Zund, Kongsberg, and MCTs. It will do the job but expect to spend around 2K.

I may still have a contact at Dustcontrol and can pass along if I can find it. I used to purchase and bundle them with the MCT VT cutters we used to manufacture.

 

[ProColorGraphics]

Sounds like the sales rep has your boss buying all sorts of unnecessary accessories! If you have the POT, there is no need for the EOT, the POT is like the EOT on steroids, the EOT offers no advantages over the POT except you don't need a large air compressor to run it.

Sounds like your boss really wants to go all in and buy every attachment, but there are some redundancies between tools.

The EOT is way better for small detail type stuff.