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Need Help Summa setup flex cut

Discussion in 'Summa' started by Dale D, Oct 12, 2020.

  1. Dale D

    Dale D Member

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    Were using Flexi to send to our Summa S2 T160 Opos. For 5 yrs, the old owner never used the flex cut options and always used contour cut then cut decals separate by hand. I was trying to set up Flex Cut but it seems to be all or nothing based off of if Flex Cut is on or off on the machine.
    For a demo......From Flexi, I was hoping to be able to send a contour cut then add a Flex Cut outside of that to make separation easier using Perf Cut Contour programed to be a Flex Cut on the same job without turning off/on this feature on the machine.



    What am I doing wrong? Thanks in advance.
     
  2. balstestrat

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    Add two different named contours to your file. Then when you are going to cut the file check the tools in Flexi and change the other cutline to Flexcut tool.
    Now it will process the tool (kiss cut) then the 2nd tool (flex) right after that. That's it.

    There's supposed to be a name that it will auto recognise as a second/different tool but I can't remember the naming scheme.
     
  3. Dale D

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    As a test......I added contour cut in flexi with grey cut contour in dropdown menu. then go back and add another contour cut but changing the contour cut dropdown to Perf cut contour. Send it to Cut/Plot. In Driver options I changed the PerfCut from drag knife to FllexCut Accurate. Then turned on the feature on the machine. As long as machine has feature on, it cuts Summa FlexCut.

    Im trying to show my steps to help make sure Im understanding this right.
     
  4. balstestrat

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    As a default you don't have to touch anything in the cutter, no need to enable or disable flexcut. I think you are forcing the cutter to cut everything as flexcut when you change the cutter settings.
    It's enough to enable it in Flexi and the cutter will do it as flexcut. If you think you have something messed up now you can restore factory settings to your summa.

    But it sounds like you are doing the Flexi part correctly.
     
  5. Dale D

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    I tried it with exact same settings in flexi, 2 different cuts ( 1 with contour cut, 1 with PerfCut Contour)
    If Flexcut on the machine off. Then everything cuts regular contour cut
    If Flexcut on the machine is on. Then everything cuts as FlexCut

    Im not sure where Im messing up.
     
  6. Dale D

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    I have "Send all colors" enabled in flexi and changed the tool in driver options so Cutcontour from drag knife to Flex Cut Accurate and set up pressure settings.. (Even though its a Tangential blade)
     
  7. Dale D

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    SO, if I have it turned off on the machine, no matter what I do, I cant get Flexi to send it as a Flex cut at all. Using Flexi 19 Subscription
     
  8. balstestrat

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    If you have it like this as I think you do and you can't get it working, try to factory reset the cutter. You just have to re-set the pressure, speeds and IP if you use ethernet. Also set them for FlexCut as well.

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  9. Dale D

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    Screenshots..
     

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  10. Dale D

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    Im thinking its Flexi related since I tried it with both Summa cutters we have. T160 and D75
     
  11. balstestrat

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    What's that additional black contour? Remove that. Other than that it seems good to me. You can also try with Flexcut Fast.
    By the way Flexcut is meant more for straight lines, not contours.
     
  12. Dale D

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    I have not figured out why flexi keeps adding the extra color. Other than it sees the color of the object. I can not remove it, just turn to turn it off from cutting.
    I just drew 2 circles, 1 smaller and 1 larger, both with no fill with black stroke circle.
    And yes, once again, it cuts regular cut contour. UGh.
     
  13. balstestrat

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    What if you disable the speed, pressure etc. from Flexi, only leave the tool?
     
  14. Dale D

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    Tried that.... no luck.
     
  15. Attila Nagy

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    :(
     
    Last edited: Oct 12, 2020
  16. balstestrat

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    Change send now to hold and see how the tools look in PM. They might default to kisscut there.
     
  17. Dale D

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    I just had Sai on the phone and on teamviewer. He couldnt even get it to work. We looked at PM and all the settings (kisscut) from flexi sent to PM correctly showing Perf Cut etc. He said he will research it more and talk to a few of their developers to find a fix. I also mentioned (which I hope they do) is add Perf Cut to the dropdown menu in design central along side of contour, rectangle, and elipse to make it easier to use without having to keep changing the color from Contour to PerfCutContour.
    Now the wait :(
     
  18. balstestrat

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    Well I guess we will see. I my self would reset the cutter but that's just me.
     
  19. Dale D

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    I reset the cutter, and the issue still exists. Im waiting on tech support still.
     
  20. Dale D

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    OK, Sai and I finally found the issue. There is a setting on the plotter, under communication, that was set to ignore. It had to be switched to accept to accept Flexis cut settings.

    Thank you for your help.
     
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