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The latex. Wanna know what it's about?

HulkSmash

New Member
This has been a Hot Subject. I'm going to put everyone's questions to rest in this one simple thread.
I spent 8 months doing research, let me save you a year, and let you know i wouldn't buy crap for myself. Only the best here.
Yes the latex is the best 60" on the market.




1. YES. It is dry immediately after printing.
2. YES. It does use less ink. ( unless you print in 16 pass which isnt necessary)
3. NO. It's not a solvent printer
4. YES. It does have nice vibrant prints.
5. NO. It doesn't smell...just kidding, it does heat the vinyl pretty nicely that makes you feel like you're inhaling cancer... but it's ok. we're all safe.
6. The cords are 14ft long. And Located in the center.
7. NO. you can't use regular plugs. 2 (2) 220's. Why? One for the heater, and one for the printer.
8. NO. It won't catch fire, and burn down your shop. (I think?)
9. NO. It won't heat your room like a heater, stop being cheap and go buy one.
10. YES. You still want to laminate your prints.
11. YES. the ink is much more durable then what comes off solvent printes.
12. NO. You still shouldn't laminate your banners. That's just redundant.
13. Ink Cost? Between 100-135 a cartridge. Depends on how much your seller loves you.
14. Head Cost? $110ish.
15. YES. It has a Waste Bottle.
16. NO. You don't have to empty it every 2 weeks.
17. YES. it cleans itself.
18. YES. it has a cutter to cut your media off the printer.
19. NO. the cutter doesn't cut banner material.
20. YES. It requires a cleaning cartridge. Cost like 35 bucks.
21. INK LONGEVITY? Well... 3 years without lam, and 5 with.
22. RESOLUTION? 1200 DPI.
23. Typical Print passes? I print at 8 and 10 pass at 600 DPI. Looks like glass.
24. IS IT EASY? No, it has a learning curve. Don't worry if your first print looks like AIDS. Just simply edit your profile to your needs for each substrate.
25. DOES IT BAND? If your profiling blows, then yes.
26. WHAT HEAT TO PRINT AT? Every substrate has different settings, but 90% of things will be curing 105 ish, and drying 55 ish. Oh Yeah that's Celsius
27. YES. The printer can burn you. Be sure to wear your hamlet.
28. YOU A GREEN FREAK? Yeah, it's a green printer.
29. Yeah it cost more electricity to print with.
30. It's FRONT load. Nice and Easy.
31. Take up ROLL? Don't switch it out for different media widths.. for the love of god... just put a 60 inch core from an old roll of vinyl on there, and DON'T TOUCH IT. I don't understand why people feel the need to switch it out every time they use a different media size. It's dumb, stop doing that.
32. That plastic roll they give you to put into the media to make it have weight is dumb too, don't use that.
33. NO. the latex doesnt have Orange and green ink, that's the epson.
34. ink cartridges are 775ml
35. YES. You do need a good rip to use this machine.
36. I have not found one media that the latex can't print on that my other solvents could.
37. Price? About 13k. Half the price of Roland, and Mutoh. Double the machine. (My Opinion)
38. Yes You can change the print heads your self. How long does it take? 8 seconds.
39. Yes it allows you to stretch the vinyl more for wraps. No it doesn't "Cloud"
40. NO. The heat from the printer wont shrink your vinyl.
41. Takes about 7 minutes to heat up in the morning. Most rips have a prepare to print button where you can warm it up if you don't feel like waiting.


Ok, that's all for now. Wife made Tacos.

I know i didn't include everything. So please Add on.
 
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Border

New Member
Is sub strait related to George Strait?

Sorry, the smart-*ss in me just couldn't resist. Nice review!
 

Border

New Member
:thread
I just thought maybe it was one of George's siblings who had amassed much fewer life accomplishments~

Sorry, I'm done now. crawling back under my rock :toasting:
 

cdiesel

New Member
11. YES. the ink is much more durable then what comes off solvent printes.

I disagree with this one. We printed some PhotoTex a few weeks ago on the LX800. Had a fingerprint on it, so one of my installers *lightly* rubbed it with alcohol and it came right off. In the same office we have other PhotoTex murals that have been up for three years and still look brand new.

Other than that, thanks Adam!

You'll have to redo your infopost in a couple weeks when they announce the L26500..
 

Custom_Grafx

New Member
Great thread - Thanks Colorado.

I am keen to see more information about the "bowing" and "print-cut registration" "issues" I have seen here and there.

Also about what cutter people find is best to use with this printer - or is it much of a muchness? All decent cutters are fine?

Also, Colorado, being someone with experience on both machines, is there anything at all that you feel a solvent is better at? (I know you will probably say NO, but even if it's something small, I am very interested to know anything that you feel the solvent/eco-solvent is better at or easier to do).

Thanks again!
 

HulkSmash

New Member
Great thread - Thanks Colorado.

I am keen to see more information about the "bowing" and "print-cut registration" "issues" I have seen here and there.

Also about what cutter people find is best to use with this printer - or is it much of a muchness? All decent cutters are fine?

Also, Colorado, being someone with experience on both machines, is there anything at all that you feel a solvent is better at? (I know you will probably say NO, but even if it's something small, I am very interested to know anything that you feel the solvent/eco-solvent is better at or easier to do).

Thanks again!

As for the bowing, it's all about the heat settings. I can't tell you what to put it at, because it's different for different medias. The only time i had bowing problems was with perf. If it's bowing as it comes from the rollers, it's the curing temp. If its after it prints. it's the drying heat.

Again this printer does have a slight learning curve.

If i was going to get a true solvent it'd be a Mimaki.. The Jv33 to be exact. Great machine as well.

I wouldn't say anything is specifically easier with the solvent...but, true solvents to print a bit glossier.. that's about it.

oh yeah. One thing i hate about the latex is that when it runs out of media in a print.. it thinks that it's jammed, and you have to restart the printer.
 

HulkSmash

New Member
11. YES. the ink is much more durable then what comes off solvent printes.

I disagree with this one. We printed some PhotoTex a few weeks ago on the LX800. Had a fingerprint on it, so one of my installers *lightly* rubbed it with alcohol and it came right off. In the same office we have other PhotoTex murals that have been up for three years and still look brand new.

Other than that, thanks Adam!

You'll have to redo your infopost in a couple weeks when they announce the L26500..

You're right there Chris. I''m a little disturbed that simple alcohol, and a firm wipe can ruin a print. BUT. When i said durable i meant it as ink adhesion. for example, when we trim banners sometimes we would get scratches on it from dragging the ruler. Not anymore with the latex.

I'm hoping with the new inks on the new machine fix that.
 

BadAss

New Member
YES!!! This machine will heat up your shop. I have had to put a fan at the back just to help circulate the heat or else that area is way warm... M*
 

HulkSmash

New Member
YES!!! This machine will heat up your shop. I have had to put a fan at the back just to help circulate the heat or else that area is way warm... M*

well, i havn't had any problems with the heat. Don't really notice it.
I guess if it's in a tiny room then yes?
 

Bly

New Member
I'm just testing some media in ours - arrived last week.
It will print on both aqueous and solvent media.
I even loaded some 80gm bond paper and it printed on that fine.
Of course the profile sucked but not even my 5500 will print colour on that stuff.
So far I'm impressed.
 

GAC05

Quit buggin' me
Good info.
One question:
On the media,
have you tried printing directly on styrene?
If yes did it print well?

thanks
wayne k
guam usa
 

HulkSmash

New Member
Could you please explain what a hamlet is.

Compared to an ecosol printer, how is the maintenance?
How long can the hp rest without printing before the troubles starts?

Typo, Helmet.
It's a joke.. just be careful when opening a hot machine when it has a paper jam. The heaters are right on the lid.
 

ProWraps

New Member
do you have to waste the first 3-4 of the media to web it?

also, we lam EVERYTHING with gloss. will the dullness of the latex even matter at that point?

and seriously, your married. god help her.
i could have sworn i saw you at the golden tamale last week dancing to village people.
 

njshorts

New Member
did anyone else notice that the wordcensor blocked b-a-d-a-s-s's name? it censored b-i-t-c-h for me the other day as well. seems a hair excessive.
 
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