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using ChatGPT for sign design and logos

The Vector Doctor

Chief Bezier Manipulator
How will you guys handle the influx of designs coming out of chatgpt and similar sites? I typed in 2 sentences there and it came up with this. Just wanted to test it out.

I get about 4-5 logos each week that are AI generated (artificial intelligence, not Adobe Illustrator for clarity). And 90% of them are so complex and have so many issues that i cannot trace them. I never know the expectations of my customers and perhaps their customers are expecting the logos to look the same. But they don't want to pay for the time it takes to fix the artwork.

If you have received AI generated artwork, are you printing it as is? It is the more modern version of "nephew" art we complained about in the past
 

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Boudica

I'm here for Educational Purposes
Just got one the other day. Some sign panels for a coffee place that was clearly bot generated. I personally don't care for the look, it seems like a sloppy build to me - but if all I have to do is print it, then that's what I do. ...garbage in, garbage out...

That said, I haven't had anything problematic (yet) but once I do I'll most likely send it back to the customer and tell them I can't do what I need to do with this. I can usually make things work though.
 

Smoke_Jaguar

Man who touches printers inappropriately.
Tell your graphic artist friends to charge twice their normal rates to make it marginally decent. Though, in my case, most have already beat me to the suggestion.
 

Bobby H

Arial Sucks.
We've received a few pieces of AI-generated "logo" art from customers over the past few months. The imagery always has a variety of flaws. The graphical stuff will have odd, mishapen flaws. Some of the flaws are easier to spot than others. If the imagery has people in it the figures will have uncanny valley flaws.

One customer, the operator of a local Mexican restaurant, was really attached to a graphical looking AI-generated image of a woman. I had to spend hours re-drawing and then vectorizing the image in order to correct all the weird errors baked into the original artwork. The client agreed to pay for the work though.

The "text to vector" AI-generated stuff in Adobe Illustrator is not very good. The content that is generated is initially raster-based and then the result is live-traced. At best, it's only good for quick and dirty work. It kind of feels like playing a slot machine when generating the images. You get 3 results at a time and you don't know what you're going to get.

Agencies who sell stock photos and clip art are getting buried in phony art submissions auto-generated from various AI bots. All that AI-crap threatens to completely de-value stock photos and art. The AI bots are already running into the issue of accidentally training themselves on other AI-generated stuff rather than real images and graphics. It's like the snake eating its own tail.
 

Bobby H

Arial Sucks.
netsol said:
is ChatGPT that much worse than what we get from cients using CANVA?

The AI-generated stuff creates a set of problems that are different from the issues we see with client artwork made in Canva. The AI imagery can be worse to handle. It's not just a matter of cleanly vectorizing the art. You sometimes have to go in and re-draw certain elements cleanly.
 

somcalmetim

New Member
Meh, I dont take much artwork from clients as I do it for them...but I have been able to get/use a few decent pics out of a couple AIs.
Some are better than others, but you cant blame customers much as AI generation/editing is built right into Photoshop/Illy now...
selecting the weird screwed up AI generated text in PS and then saying "remove text" is pretty handy when you have to replace it with real vector text by hand...Adobes generation is pretty weak though, it took me 7 attempts before it made a Santa Clause cartoon that wasn't a black Asian she/her.
I was using Shutterstocks AI generator for a few assets/backgrounds till they put the price/generation through the roof...
biggest problem is Shutterstock seems to be just adding all the AI generated images to their catalog...
 

somcalmetim

New Member
Agencies who sell stock photos and clip art are getting buried in phony art submissions auto-generated from various AI bots. All that AI-crap threatens to completely de-value stock photos and art. The AI bots are already running into the issue of accidentally training themselves on other AI-generated stuff rather than real images and graphics. It's like the snake eating its own tail.
Ha, Shutterstock is just adding all the unused AI generated pics to their catalog...
 

FireSprint.com

Trade Only Screen & Digital Sign Printing
This is going to be unpopular, and I’m not condoning it at all, but 99% will be ai generated within the next couple of years if the current trajectory continues. It will be nearly perfect as well. The little errors and issues will get resolved one by one until you can’t hardly tell the difference without a phd…if at all.

I’m not exactly sure what to do about it, but it’s coming and we all better figure out how to ride the wave.
 

Christian @ 2CT Media

Active Member
This is going to be unpopular, and I’m not condoning it at all, but 99% will be ai generated within the next couple of years if the current trajectory continues. It will be nearly perfect as well. The little errors and issues will get resolved one by one until you can’t hardly tell the difference without a phd…if at all.

I’m not exactly sure what to do about it, but it’s coming and we all better figure out how to ride the wave.
Learn to prompt, there is always people who will need you to do it for them.
 

Pauly

Printrade.com.au
This is going to be unpopular, and I’m not condoning it at all, but 99% will be ai generated within the next couple of years if the current trajectory continues. It will be nearly perfect as well. The little errors and issues will get resolved one by one until you can’t hardly tell the difference without a phd…if at all.

I’m not exactly sure what to do about it, but it’s coming and we all better figure out how to ride the wave.
Images without text become quite challenging to distinguish now.

Im all for it.
Technology is always moving. Ride with it or get left behind.

That said, i needed some fake business names for samples. a few mins on chat gpt and a few mins on adobe and i ended up with good enough samples.
 

ProSignTN

New Member
How will you guys handle the influx of designs coming out of chatgpt and similar sites? I typed in 2 sentences there and it came up with this. Just wanted to test it out.

I get about 4-5 logos each week that are AI generated (artificial intelligence, not Adobe Illustrator for clarity). And 90% of them are so complex and have so many issues that i cannot trace them. I never know the expectations of my customers and perhaps their customers are expecting the logos to look the same. But they don't want to pay for the time it takes to fix the artwork.

If you have received AI generated artwork, are you printing it as is? It is the more modern version of "nephew" art we complained about in the past
Evidently the AI hasn't read the U.S. Flag Code.
 

The Vector Doctor

Chief Bezier Manipulator
That's the most American thing i've seen all day :wavingflag:

I need to know what you typed into get that?
"create a for sale by owner sign 24 inches wide by 18 inches tall. Red white and blue colors with a real estate symbol, an eagle and the wording Patriot realty"

It did not follow the instructions exactly though. Probably would after a few prompts and tweaks
 

Goatshaver

Shaving goats and eating bushes
I don't mind using it as a tool, but certainly not for logos, maybe a logo idea to start from. I use if on occasion for background images for label artwork, but it's never going to replace the feeling of a piece of artwork done by a human.
 

Eforcer

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How will you guys handle the influx of designs coming out of chatgpt and similar sites? I typed in 2 sentences there and it came up with this. Just wanted to test it out.

I get about 4-5 logos each week that are AI generated (artificial intelligence, not Adobe Illustrator for clarity). And 90% of them are so complex and have so many issues that i cannot trace them. I never know the expectations of my customers and perhaps their customers are expecting the logos to look the same. But they don't want to pay for the time it takes to fix the artwork.

If you have received AI generated artwork, are you printing it as is? It is the more modern version of "nephew" art we complained about in the past
I'm still using ADOBE line to recreate art. I feel AI stops any creative juices, an individual may have. (LAZY)
 

Stacey K

I like making signs
I haven't gotten much from AI, mostly Canva. My customers are asking me to create logos but are making their own with AI or Canva then telling me they don't like my logo..."here look what we made last night, we like this better". It happened a few times then they don't want to pay the balance owed. I stopped doing logo work, for the most part.

I'm 100% fine with never having to design another logo from scratch again. I'll refine and tweak then make money on production, not design. It sounds terrible but it seems we have no choice...
 
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