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Vector File Ownership

Discussion in 'Dimensional Signs' started by 3Dsigns, Mar 21, 2019.

  1. 3Dsigns

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    If you designed and built a detailed dimensional sign for a municipality, and there are still three other signs just like it which they want it to match, then 10 years later the sign gets destroyed and the client asks you to quote on building another but it is going to be quoted by two other companies.. Because of the detail, it is highly unlikely that anyone else "bidding" the job can duplicate it exactly;. What do you do if the client or the winning bidder asks for your vector file/s?
     
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  2. ddarlak

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    send along the crappiest jpeg you can muster and tell them that's all you have...
     
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  3. bannertime

    bannertime Very Active Member

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    Provide whatever art the customer gave you. Do not provide any art you created. If the customer ask, you can charge them for production artwork.
     
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  4. 2B

    2B Very Active Member

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    Production files are proprietary and are NOT sent.

    If they need to know how to make the sign, they can figure it out by reverse engineering what is left of the sign.
    if you want to be "nice" you can send them the initial proof, which should have some details/specs about the sign.
     
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  5. Gino

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    Creating and building a sign(s) are not really copyrighted items. There are only so many ways something can be accomplished and like mentioned prior, they can figure that out by looking at the old destroyed one, unless it doesn't exist anymore. In that case, someone should create a spec sheet, so everyone's bids are created equal. As for handing over your files, I would not do that for anyone, other than a very low res jpeg...... and make sure it can't be duplicated in any way.
     
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  6. Billct2

    Billct2 Major Contributor

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    Nope
     
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  7. WildWestDesigns

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    Ideally, this would have been handled in the contract before the job was done the 1st time around. That avoids a lot of conflicts like this.

    Having said that, if I'm commissioned for a physical good, my contract is complete once I hand over that physical good (or it transfers to the other party in some way). That's it. Nothing else goes to the client unless specified in the contract. No stitch files, no stl/g-code files, no vector files.
     
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  8. ColorCrest

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    You simply have a choice of charging a "file transfer" fee or not. Most likely another sign company will just recreate the design the best way they know how. Not copyrightable since the design serves as a utilitarian purpose anyway.
     
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  9. 3Dsigns

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  10. Gino

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    I like happy endings.

    Very nice sign and nicely executed. ​
     
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  11. jimbug72

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    Hey Gino, I hear there's this spa down in Florida...
     
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  12. Gino

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    Yeah, someone else told me about it.... Hoppy Enning or something like that. Only "smile" people work there.
     
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  13. Texas_Signmaker

    Texas_Signmaker Very Active Signmaker

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  14. StarSign

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  15. thesignpost

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    Look at this article attached, I think it sums it up.
     

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  16. Gino

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    That story from Mark is all well and good, but from an emotional standpoint, more than a business standpoint. Had this whole issue of who owns said artwork was discussed and signed off on in the beginning, none of this would hafta take place 10 years later. No one.... and I mean NO ONE will ever get our working files. They didn't get them in the day when it was all hand-painted and they won't get them now in this digital age. My working files work on my computer and mine alone. All others will hafta pay me to re-create something they can use, other than our proprietary files.
     
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